Approaches, IF / VTF

Personally. what I want loaded after an approach is the complete missed approach procedure and that is all!

I agree that we should train the way we want to fly. That still includes tune, identify, and verify the next waypoint before proceeding anywhere. We now have many ways to tune and identify, but it is still important that we verify that we are going where we want to go.

Regardless of how many waypoints are in any flight plan, it is important that we "tune, identify and verify".

Happy Skies,

Old Bob

Orest,

I've heard of, and teach, staying ahead of the aircraft, but this is beyond that. 

I always expect to miss. I have enough to think about the approach ahead of me (and the miss) to even think of pre-programming another approach.

What makes you think that the approach at the alternate will be the approach they are working at the moment.  Weather obviously deteriorated below the destination airport resulting in a miss, its likely your alternate will have different weather.  This is what proficiency does.  Some one earlier said that its for flight motor skills.  Couldn't disagree anymore.  Practicing in the clouds is where you get the flow of setting up radios, GPS, etc for approaches.  You are actually short changing yourself setting up all these approaches in advanced. I rarely, if ever, know what approach is being used at even the destination let alone the alternate.  All it takes is a wind shift.

Secondly, the alternate should not be so close to the destination that you are in a hurry up situation.  You can collect your thoughts in the hold at the missed or tell ATC you want to be vectored for time. 

BTW, you better be "thinking" when you are close to the ground in IMC.

Hi Bob,

Sounds like you and I are on the same page (and age).

Be safe.

Jim

I will wait to judge how I feel about this until I try it out. But I am intrigued by the idea of a new way to operate. I never before considered putting my destination into the fight plan more than once so that I could load multiple approaches.  I don't usually make my alternate part of my flight plan, but that too is an interesting idea.  So even without having made a final decision, I am excited by the possibility of a better way to do things.  If it's not better, I won't use it.

To be honest, I don't do a lot of IFR flying and not many approaches.  Probably more than 95% of the approaches in my logbook are training or practice.  Approaches to anything near minimums are count-on-a-hand events.