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    Posted: 30 Dec 2017 at 6:49am
On Dec 19, Garmin released new software (version 5) and installation documentation (version 11) for the G5 EFI. Included in this release is new software for the GMU 11 magnetometer (version 2) and the GAD 29 GPS/Navigation interface adapter (version 3). 
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Avidyne has been working for over 3 years on having the Avidyne MLB100 (Now Skytrax 100) display ADS-B traffic and weather on the the Avidyne EX5000 MFD. I hope they complete that project before they start working on some new non Avidyne competitor equipment.
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Originally posted by Flying_Monkey Flying_Monkey wrote:

Originally posted by AviSimpson AviSimpson wrote:

Originally posted by pburger pburger wrote:

I'm glad to see reports that the IFDs are talking to the G5s.  That is indeed great news.
It appears that it will just be a documentation exercise as part of a major release (TSO impacting). We will still need to fly it in our test aircraft to confirm that everything is functional.
 It's frustrating that this is taking so long if it really is just a documentation thing.


Just a documentation thing?  That's not what I understood there.  It is an extra layer of documentation that may come as part of a major release.  Those don't happen quickly.

Also, "still need to fly it" tells me that their test airplane is not yet flying with a G5 installed.  Not surprising since I doubt their test airplane spends as much time as most of ours do sitting idle in a hangar.  Test aircraft generally have busy flight schedules and rigid maintenance/modification schedules.  They can't just deck the plane for modification each time a competitor invents a new piece of equipment.

To quote Heinlein, "Waiting is."

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Originally posted by AviSimpson AviSimpson wrote:

Originally posted by pburger pburger wrote:

This thread was started on March 30, 2017, and here we are at the end of the year.  I'm glad to see reports that the IFDs are talking to the G5s.  That is indeed great news.  Now, AVIDYNE, how about working on this?  The G5s are getting a LOT of play from all quadrants.  I'm definitely leaning that way.  I would love to do a dual G5 installation early next year, but I don't want to get caught with an unairworthy installation due to a lack of an STC.  If Avidyne could list these babies in their manual similar to the Aspen, I assume the legal bar would be met.

Avidyne, what say you?

Still this "No update to share. It appears that it will just be a documentation exercise as part of a major release (TSO impacting). We will still need to fly it in our test aircraft to confirm that everything is functional."

Thanks for the update.  It's frustrating that this is taking so long if it really is just a documentation thing, but I guess this is probably quick in the aviation world.  I recently installed a 540 as part of a PA32-300 renovation that started before the G5s were announced.  Would have liked to maybe do dual G5s at the same time as everything else but was left in limbo since there has been no real updates. I have thought many times since the purchase that maybe I should have gone the Garmin route for compatibility with G5 and now the GFC500.  I guess I'll hold off and maybe wait for Dynon's offering next year.  But I imagine Avidyne is probably losing some sales to folks figuring that they want G5s and the GFC500 and not wanting to wait to see if Avidyne will be compatible/legal...especially if it is going to be an extended wait like we are experiencing with the G5s.  Guess I'm just venting.  I'm sure Avidyne is feeling the pressure to get this sorted out.

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Originally posted by AviSimpson AviSimpson wrote:

Originally posted by pburger pburger wrote:

This thread was started on March 30, 2017, and here we are at the end of the year.  I'm glad to see reports that the IFDs are talking to the G5s.  That is indeed great news.  Now, AVIDYNE, how about working on this?  The G5s are getting a LOT of play from all quadrants.  I'm definitely leaning that way.  I would love to do a dual G5 installation early next year, but I don't want to get caught with an unairworthy installation due to a lack of an STC.  If Avidyne could list these babies in their manual similar to the Aspen, I assume the legal bar would be met.

Avidyne, what say you?

Still this "No update to share. It appears that it will just be a documentation exercise as part of a major release (TSO impacting). We will still need to fly it in our test aircraft to confirm that everything is functional."

Thanks for the update.  It's frustrating that this is taking so long if it really is just a documentation thing, but I guess this is probably quick in the aviation world.  I recently installed a 540 as part of a PA32-300 renovation that started before the G5s were announced.  Would have liked to maybe do dual G5s at the same time as everything else but was left in limbo since there has been no real updates. I have thought many times since the purchase that maybe I should have gone the Garmin route for compatibility with G5 and now the GFC500.  I guess I'll hold off and maybe wait for Dynon's offering next year.  But I imagine Avidyne is probably losing some sales to folks figuring that they want G5s and the GFC500 and not wanting to wait to see if Avidyne will be compatible/legal...especially if it is going to be an extended wait like we are experiencing with the G5s.  Guess I'm just venting.  I'm sure Avidyne is feeling the pressure to get this sorted out.
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Originally posted by pburger pburger wrote:

This thread was started on March 30, 2017, and here we are at the end of the year.  I'm glad to see reports that the IFDs are talking to the G5s.  That is indeed great news.  Now, AVIDYNE, how about working on this?  The G5s are getting a LOT of play from all quadrants.  I'm definitely leaning that way.  I would love to do a dual G5 installation early next year, but I don't want to get caught with an unairworthy installation due to a lack of an STC.  If Avidyne could list these babies in their manual similar to the Aspen, I assume the legal bar would be met.

Avidyne, what say you?

Still this "No update to share. It appears that it will just be a documentation exercise as part of a major release (TSO impacting). We will still need to fly it in our test aircraft to confirm that everything is functional."
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This thread was started on March 30, 2017, and here we are at the end of the year.  I'm glad to see reports that the IFDs are talking to the G5s.  That is indeed great news.  Now, AVIDYNE, how about working on this?  The G5s are getting a LOT of play from all quadrants.  I'm definitely leaning that way.  I would love to do a dual G5 installation early next year, but I don't want to get caught with an unairworthy installation due to a lack of an STC.  If Avidyne could list these babies in their manual similar to the Aspen, I assume the legal bar would be met.

Avidyne, what say you?
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Flew the baron today with my 440 as nav for dual G5’s. No problems at all having to turn down pressure pumps since DG was removed. Gpss steering was super with century 3.   and 440 acted like a perfect 430 and all is well in my hangar. Wonderful combination. Hope the do a SV some day. I am satisfied for the future.
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Just put dual G5 in my older Baron with century3. Even with gad29a had to keep old horizon for autopilot to use. Got rid of 106a and 3 pounds of cable to use Can bus and 429 port on the 440. Fly it tomorrow I and will let you know how it doees but so far I like what I see. Flight plan in 440 sent info to both Dme indicators waiting to see how it flies. 9400$ out the door.
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Just put dual G5 in my older Baron with century3. Even with gad29a had to keep old horizon for autopilot to use. Got rid of 106a and 3 pounds of cable to use Can bus and 429 port on the 440. Fly it tomorrow I and will let you know how it does but so far I like what I see. Flight plan in 440 sent info to both Dme indicators waiting to see how it flies. 9400$ out the door.
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The Aspen as I recall requires a backup AI, negating removal of the vacuum system. My older C180 doesn't have a std 6-pack configuration. Adopting same requires field approval/STC conversion to a U-Yoke from the T-yoke; major work/$. If I went Aspen as currenly configured, The Aspen would go where the ASI/TC is and the AI or AS would go way at the bottom. The dual G5 wouldn't require any of that and save weight/oil on the bottom of the plane.
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Originally posted by jonesronc jonesronc wrote:

I'm considering going the dual G5 route with G29B to replace my vacuum AI/NSD-360 HSI/ wet pump, ...

I think you would be much better served going ASPEN Pro. The cost is not much more, but you get so much more, including first rate intercompatibility with your 55x, and the IFD.

The G5s are OK, if you want to replace either DG or AI, but if you are looking to replace both, it would be my advice to look elsewhere.

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I'm considering going the dual G5 route with G29B to replace my vacuum AI/NSD-360 HSI/ wet pump, at least once the promised 10.2+ software upgrade goes thru. I have an IFD540 & Stec 55x.   But so far, I haven't seen any for sure evidence the G5 HSI provides glideslope/ vertical guidance. Does anybody know for sure it does? Thx!
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Hi AVI Folks,

In order to reclaim that extra ARINC 429 port, Garmin plans to combine their EFIS/AIRDATA and GAD42 outputs into one stream so their GAD29B will only require one 429-IN port instead of two to drive our legacy autopilots.

Does AVI have plans to create a similar concentrated ARINC output option for the IFDs?  Due to the compatible nature of the IFD series, you have the same 429 port limitations.  I understand the G5 is not your product but I think the G5/GAD29B may be causing customers to consider the GTN series over IFDs for just this feature, based on chatter I'm seeing on Beech and elsewhere.  Supporting this would maintain your argument of plug-n-play with the GNS series. 

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I just installed a G5 in my C172 to replace my AI.  Actually just moved vacuum AI over to the copilot side.   It gets GPS data from my IFD550 by way of RS232.  Works perfectly.  4 wires;  RS232, equipment ground, airframe ground, and plus 14V.  $1500 installation cost.
At the same time put in a new Trio Autopilot.  Lateral good (just follows the magenta line!), debugging Vertical.
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Originally posted by Gring Gring wrote:

Quote I don’t yet have an auto pilot in my cardinal, but find my accuracy in flying has improved to less than 1/10 of a mile and less than 50 feet over several hours. This is totally because of the G5’s.

Can you explain this a little?  Improved over what?  DG and CDI?  Analog HSI?

I can tell you that my experience with the G5 is that the presentation (ie compass card) is significantly smaller than a King or Century HSI and harder to read.

Understanding that my experience is subjective, I find that hand flying the G5's that replaced the Cessna OEM AI and DG (no heading bug) is much easier - and results in the stated accuracy where my previous experience was easily drifting off course by several tenths of a mile and off altitude by a couple hundred feet on long cross-country flights. 

I fly a variety of aircraft that have any number of flight instrument types in them. I prefer hand flying to autopilot flying, and therefore have plenty of experience with all manner of presentations, including HSI's from a variety of manufacturers and electronic instrumentation from Aspen, Garmin, and Avidyne and others. Frankly, I find the G5 easy to read and very easy to interpret, therefore making it easier for me to hand fly. There are several pieces of data that are displayed on both instruments which helps significantly with scan. The HSI can be changed to be an EFIS if something happens to the G5 acting as EFIS.

To me, the Aspen display is not as easy to read or interpret, let alone the very frequent incidence of partial and total failures that I've experienced in half-a-dozen different aircraft equipped with Aspen - again, just my experience. You may find otherwise, but I'm well pleased with the G5 and particularly with the integration and information shared between the 540 and the G5's - bi-directionally. As mentioned elsewhere, the GAD29 is required to receive NAV data from the IFD 540, or the GNS 530, for that matter. GPS Navigator Data is passed over the CAN bus, which is handled by the GAD29.

Some of the neat things I've observed - Airspeed and altitude are passed to the 540 so that calculation of winds aloft can be done more easily; heading, track, desired track, target/selected altitude, and Vspeeds information is shown on the EFIS; both EFIS and HSI display vertical and horizontal deviation (course and GS/GP); HSI autoslews the GPS course pointer; MSG annunciation on the HSI; bearing to GPS/VOR can be shown on the HSI. One may wish to view the G5 Pilot Guide to see details and examples (google for G5 pilot guide).
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Originally posted by compasst compasst wrote:

I am happy to report that a dual G5 installation with GMU11 and GAD 29 interfaces perfectly with IFD 540. I have about 10 hours in actual hand flying in actual imc with several approaches to minimum and I am totally happy with the interface. I don’t yet have an auto pilot in my cardinal, but find my accuracy in flying has improved to less than 1/10 of a mile and less than 50 feet over several hours. This is totally because of the G5’s.

In a few days I will be test flying another installation with a 530 W and a century three auto pilot. 

The GAD 29 is required to  to interface and get gps Nav data from a GPS navigator. The GAD 29B is required for non Garman auto pilot. 


Thanks for posting this report. Hopefully we will get avidyne to do the test flight and update their paperwork soon.
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Quote I don’t yet have an auto pilot in my cardinal, but find my accuracy in flying has improved to less than 1/10 of a mile and less than 50 feet over several hours. This is totally because of the G5’s.

Can you explain this a little?  Improved over what?  DG and CDI?  Analog HSI?

I can tell you that my experience with the G5 is that the presentation (ie compass card) is significantly smaller than a King or Century HSI and harder to read.
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I am happy to report that a dual G5 installation with GMU11 and GAD 29 interfaces perfectly with IFD 540. I have about 10 hours in actual hand flying in actual imc with several approaches to minimum and I am totally happy with the interface. I don’t yet have an auto pilot in my cardinal, but find my accuracy in flying has improved to less than 1/10 of a mile and less than 50 feet over several hours. This is totally because of the G5’s.

In a few days I will be test flying another installation with a 530 W and a century three auto pilot. 

The GAD 29 is required to  to interface and get gps Nav data from a GPS navigator. The GAD 29B is required for non Garman auto pilot. 
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Well, G has a workaround for their G5's power issue. Apparently I am not the only one.

Here it is.

using an allen wrench appropriatly sized. remove the instrument from the panel, unscrew the two battery screws from the unit. Turn on the essential power to check the instrument for operation, if it turns on the problem is the battery issue. In both of mine I had that exact issue. I guess that they have a software problem to deal with because they said that I was the third guy they worked through it with today.

Well at least its not a total bust, but the batterys need to be charged and the only way to do that is fly. What a bummer that will be....LOL
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Originally posted by pburger pburger wrote:

Does this really require a new software release? or just a revision to the manual?  I'm curious because I plan to pop in two G5s next year.

Since the G5 works with the GNS-430/530, is this just a paperwork issue at this point?  The G5 uses ARINC 429, so I would think it just has to be set up properly on both ends.  As AviSimpson posted earlier, the G5 STC doesn't list the IFDs, but Avidyne could include the G5 as a compatible device in their installation manual.  

It appears that it will just be a documentation exercise. We will still need to fly it in our test aircraft to confirm it.
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Ok folks, as I said earlier, I made the mistake of installing two G5's into my 182 in order to rid myself of the vacuum system and it has been a problem. Currently neither of the G5's are operational. My Avionics installer let me know this morning that they are having battery problems. No S**t sherlock, both of mine are absolutely dead. They do not startup, and I can not push the On/Off button to get them to start up. I am t/o'd because at the moment I can't fly and I have places that need to be gone to.

I will let you all know the solution, but until then hold off, on the install, of yours.


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Originally posted by skitheo skitheo wrote:

So can dual G5's feed air data to the IFD540?

Seems like dual G5 + IFD540 + Trio A/P is a good IFR solution, made even better with air data connection.


I wonder what general expectations are here. Just to give one example, the G5 doesn't have ARINC 429 output. So a dual G5 would also need a GAD29/29B to provide an IFD with air data feed from the G5 HSI.

Agreed that the IFD could receive a direct RS232 feed, but I'd be very careful to read the Garmin G5 manual on what data might actually be transferred across it just to ensure that all expectations are met.
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Originally posted by pburger pburger wrote:

Does this really require a new software release? or just a revision to the manual?  I'm curious because I plan to pop in two G5s next year.

Since the G5 works with the GNS-430/530, is this just a paperwork issue at this point?  The G5 uses ARINC 429, so I would think it just has to be set up properly on both ends.  As AviSimpson posted earlier, the G5 STC doesn't list the IFDs, but Avidyne could include the G5 as a compatible device in their installation manual.  

I don't know.  Has anyone tried it?  Would be an awfully expensive experiment if it doesn't work but I thought I read someone's post who had installed it.  I would think it would work but wouldn't be legal... yet.  I'm getting kind of impatient waiting though.  
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Does this really require a new software release? or just a revision to the manual?  I'm curious because I plan to pop in two G5s next year.

Since the G5 works with the GNS-430/530, is this just a paperwork issue at this point?  The G5 uses ARINC 429, so I would think it just has to be set up properly on both ends.  As AviSimpson posted earlier, the G5 STC doesn't list the IFDs, but Avidyne could include the G5 as a compatible device in their installation manual.  

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2 moths later and wondering if there are any updates.  Lots of people installing dual G5s and with the GFC500 on the horizon I think a lot of people are wondering if they will be able to use their IFDs in this setup.
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Originally posted by AviSimpson AviSimpson wrote:

No updates to share on this. Initial indications look promising to support it in an upcoming release.

2 moths later and wondering if there are any updates.  Lots of people installing dual G5s and with the GFC500 on the horizon I think a lot of people are wondering if they will be able to use their IFDs in this setup.
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I too am hoping to replace my AI and HSI with G5's, assuming the IFD's are compatible. Hopefully they will be supported soon.
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Originally posted by Flying_Monkey Flying_Monkey wrote:

Any update on if this will be in the upcoming release and when that might be?
No updates to share on this. Initial indications look promising to support it in an upcoming release.

Thanks for the reply. Will you please let us know if/when you have an estimated date as to when we could expect the G5 to be supported?  It will help a few of us make decisions.
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Originally posted by Flying_Monkey Flying_Monkey wrote:

Any update on if this will be in the upcoming release and when that might be?
No updates to share on this. Initial indications look promising to support it in an upcoming release.
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Avidyne is shutdown until next week some time. (Irma)

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Originally posted by AviSimpson AviSimpson wrote:

Originally posted by mmozur mmozur wrote:

AviSimpson, is this in the works for the upcoming release?  

Matt  

That is the current plan. We just received the G5 so until we can get a few test cycles on it, we won't know if that plan will hold true.

Any update on if this will be in the upcoming release and when that might be?
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I'd go Sandia or Dynon, or if you need nav indications and don't mind spending a bit more, the L3.

I have a Sandia Quattro, and it is a solid performer. The other big advantage to the Sandia & L3 is that ALL of their indications are certified, AI, ASI, Alt, VS etc. Only the AI is a certified indication on the Garmin & Dynon.

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No G5 competitor announcement from us. We will be looking at integrating with the G5 in the next software release. It appears that they use a similar protocol to the G500/600 that we already support so in theory, it should be straight forward.


Avidyne didn't have an announcement for a G5 competitor, but Dynon sure did! And Dynon prefers Avidyne navigators. Witness how many IFD5x0 are in their promotional photos!
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I had this same issue when my standby attitude indicator failed.  Since the GarMonster was not interested in working with Avidyne I chose to go with Sandia.  It's a solid unit that does not require any GPS interface so there's no issue with compatibility.  Of course, the Sandia doesn't do any nav functions, so it that's what you need then this is not a viable solution.
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Originally posted by AviSimpson AviSimpson wrote:

Originally posted by mmozur mmozur wrote:

AviSimpson, is this in the works for the upcoming release?  

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That is the current plan. We just received the G5 so until we can get a few test cycles on it, we won't know if that plan will hold true.

Any progress on this.  A few of us are in a position to pull the trigger on G5s but holding off until 100% sure we can legally use with the 540.
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Some STCs include wording to the effect that it is up to the A&P/IA doing the installation to ensure that the STC does not interfere with any other installed STC.

The textbook example would be an STC that installs high compression cylinders with an STC that installs a high-flow exhaust system.  Either one by itself is approved and tested, but the combination of the two was never put through a certification test.  An engine with both upgrades could potentially exceed the cooling system's capabilities (or push up against some other operational boundary).

Naturally, electronics are a bit different, but the certification process is optimized for mechanical things, not for electronics.
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Originally posted by AviSimpson AviSimpson wrote:

Originally posted by mmozur mmozur wrote:

AviSimpson, is this in the works for the upcoming release?  

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That is the current plan. We just received the G5 so until we can get a few test cycles on it, we won't know if that plan will hold true.

In planning upgrades to my own panel, this subject raises a question I have regarding STC's.

If one component does not list another as an approved interface, IE: the G5 STC does not list the IFD as an approved GPS source, would such an installation be "legal" if the IFD STC does include an interface to the G5? 

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That's great news - thanks!

I'll keep my fingers crossed :)

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Originally posted by mmozur mmozur wrote:

AviSimpson, is this in the works for the upcoming release?  

Matt  

That is the current plan. We just received the G5 so until we can get a few test cycles on it, we won't know if that plan will hold true.
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Originally posted by bcool bcool wrote:

I spoke with an Avidyne rep at Oshkosh last week & he said the G5 should be certified to work with the IFD540/550s in October, or whenever the next release of the operating system comes out.

That would be great so I can stop throwing money at my still non-functioning King HSI :)


AviSimpson, is this in the works for the upcoming release?  

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I have an IFD 550 and just getting ready to put in a G5 I got at oshkosh.  What's wrong with sending the GPS RS232 info from pin #56 into the G5?
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I spoke with an Avidyne rep at Oshkosh last week & he said the G5 should be certified to work with the IFD540/550s in October, or whenever the next release of the operating system comes out.

That would be great so I can stop throwing money at my still non-functioning King HSI :)

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Great news!   Well done! 
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No G5 competitor announcement from us. We will be looking at integrating with the G5 in the next software release. It appears that they use a similar protocol to the G500/600 that we already support so in theory, it should be straight forward.
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Originally posted by Flying_Monkey Flying_Monkey wrote:

Avidyne, please hear us and see that the G5 is and will continue to grow greatly in popularity.  You really need to push to get the IFD units compatible (and legally compatible) with the G5s. If not, I will begin to regret choosing Avidyne over Garmin for my new IFR GPS unit that is currently being installed.  It's too late to change for me but others will continue to have a choice and the G5 will play a major role...

Who knows? Maybe Avidyne has an Oshkosh announcement for something better than the G5?
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Avidyne, please hear us and see that the G5 is and will continue to grow greatly in popularity.  You really need to push to get the IFD units compatible (and legally compatible) with the G5s. If not, I will begin to regret choosing Avidyne over Garmin for my new IFR GPS unit that is currently being installed.  It's too late to change for me but others will continue to have a choice and the G5 will play a major role...
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How many GA airplanes have autopilots that can fly the vertical part of an approach?   Ok.  Now how many of those autopilots are under 40 years old?  How many work?  

For the rest of us...  Getting an electric attitude indicator (I'll keep my vacuum as a backup, thank you), an HSI, that will interface with our autopilots and legally fit in the panel for $4500 plus install is a bargain.  Heck the STEC GPSS module costs almost half that.   Heck Garmin wants almost half that to service my GI-106 that is acting up again.  

I don't mean to sound argumentative, but they are going to sell tons of G5s. 

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Are you sure?  The Stec-60 is strictly a pitch stabilization unit.....no lateral inputs required.   It does provide Alt hold, Vertical Speed, and Glide Slope capture.   

I will be more that happy to dump all my gimbals, bearing, and mechanical gyro's in favor of todays solid state units as I think many more will be making the shift.  

I look forward to a healthy competitive environment that gives us the best in technology especially around cost effective autopilots even if it's the big G pushing the envelope. 
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