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So I have the OREST setup with the Stratus as the hub.
Now I want to add another Ipad to dp do the IFD-100. What do I connect it to? BH |
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Please tell us more about the NavWorks fix-- I didn't think ForeFlight was able to ingest and display ADS-B traffic and wx from the IFD series yet, and I didn't realize that the MLB100 was involved.
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Using the Stratus as the hotspot, the IFD-540 connects but frequently drops out and reconnects.
I have successfully loaded flight plans from Foreflight to the 540. On the map page, the sendit icon has a panel icon and that does the trick. Any suggestion on the dropouts? The Stratus is on the glareshield above the 540. I get an audio alert that the disconnect happened along with a flag on the 540 map. BH |
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Posted: 02 Aug 2017 at 5:38pm |
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My MLB100 talks (WiFi) to my iPad with FlyQ (Seattle Avionics) just fine. I get weather and NavWorx is putting out a fix for traffic display in 3 weeks.
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Flying to OSH and back last week I discovered with my top 440 in remote mode and the bottom one local:
Remote mode connected through the Stratus will work for a few minutes on the IFD100 then will quit. the only way to get it to work is to shut it off and wait and it will start working but eventually it will stop connecting. Pinging it with Fing show no response. With #2 in local mode it is a solid connection. I stopped at Avidyne's booth and TJ tells me that perhaps 10.2.1 will fix it.
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This guy is having trouble hooking up his IFD540 to his Stratus network. Am I missing anything?
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No, you'd have to flip between networks, to make it work. * Orest |
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Posted: 26 Jun 2017 at 11:25pm |
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That idea doesn't work because the Ipad can only connect to one WiFi device at a time
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Yes, I would try that. Others have reported success. One in local, one in remote. Otherwise, we wait for 10.2.1. * Orest Edited by oskrypuch - 26 Jun 2017 at 11:11am |
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I have 2 440's and have the bottom one remote and the IFD 100 connects through the Stratus and I see maps,freqs,etc and all works great till I kill the Stratus then it all goes away. The problem is when I go into Foreflight I can only see the Stratus and never the IFD as a device and never see the extra button you speak of on the map page. therefore no flight plan transfer.
I have the top 440 programmed as local and when I enable Wifi on it I see it on Foreflight and can push a plan from the IFD to Foreflight through the device part but still no button on the map page. No communication with IFD 100 when set up as local. I've never turned Wi-fi on both of them at the same time, should I try that?
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For the IFDs, a minor cool feature, for other Brands, a real need. Of course I don't have that problem.
I virtually always enter the flight plan directly on the IFD, using the MK10 keyboard, and watch it graphically build. * Orest Edited by oskrypuch - 22 Jun 2017 at 6:12pm |
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I have been reading up on the limitations that foreflight currently has with obtaining ADS-B wx / traffic from the Skytrax. I'm sure this would be an easy update for FF but obviously it would cut into Stratus sales. On one hand it kinda stinks because I do plan to continue to use FF for my EFB and to look at weather / metars / winds / etc.
So while I'm sitting here wishing for FF to allow the "handshake" I'm actually thinking that keeping the Stratus 2s long term regardless of what happens. I just got to thinking about what happens if I lose my IFD or it's gps signal? Sure I have ample attitude reference with the G5 and original vacuum, but what about navigation? Keeping the Stratus provides the FF ipad a totally separate data set that is independent from the Avidyne suite. Lose the IFD or electrical system and FF with my stratus keep right on running. It just seems like a logical choice to keep running FF on the stratus. And to think I was so excited when FF updated to allow flight plan transfer. When I realized how superior the IFD 550 and IFD100 were at flight plan entry I realized that need was kind overhyped. What say everyone else? |
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Yes, that has been my experience as well. For those looking for an upgrade in their panel, one demo ride generally results in a new sale. * Orest
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Posted: 13 Jun 2017 at 2:50am |
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I was able to make it all work. Uploaded flight plan from Foreflight 9.1.3, downloaded an IFD540 flight plan to Foreflight, all while IFD100 was running in the background. Opened the IFD App and it populated from the panel. Did it all from the hangar, and nothing crashed. Foreflight fixed the map issue I had last week with the latest update. It's pretty cool all around. Everything I'd hoped for by waiting for my new 540 has now come to fruition. Well done Avidyne, persistence pays.
Showed one guy my 540, and he bought one a week later, just showed another pilot and he is also considering it over the G* models. Air test Friday! |
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Posted: 11 Jun 2017 at 7:30am |
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My airplane has been out of service since Foreflight version 9.1.0 so I missed the upload feature come and go. But I suspect it will be back in 9.1.4 or some future version.
Having used the upload from FltPlanGo, I agree that it is mostly useful for the start of a long or complicated flight. For a short or simple flight it's easier to just program the IFD itself. Maybe the IFD100 will make me reevaluate that, but honestly for local flights I barely use the iPad in the first place. David Bunin |
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I agree... my IFDs are so dang simple... really the iPad sort of "gets in the way" now for me... I have enough screens in my Cirrus... having to manage an iPad really does not bring any additional ease of use.
That said, it was the case that with Foreflight 9.1.2, I could click on the device button and see both an upload and a download option within Foreflight... Now with 9.1.3, I only see download... it appears that the Foreflight folks have disabled the upload option in 9.1.3... it would be good to know if the reasoning was a Foreflight issue or an Avidyne issue... Doug
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The upload/download is controlled from the tablet. Whether FF or FltPlan, you see an extra icon on the map page of each, and selecting it you get an option of download or upload.
In FF there is also an option in the settings for automatic updates, but not sure it is implemented with the IFD. The upload feature might well be handy when you startup, to transfer a complicated flightplan to the IFD, that you've planned and filed from the EFB. But for a short flight, with GeoFill, it is almost faster to just enter it directly in the IFD. Although you could, I don't see using upload while in flight, I can't ever see the need to make a primary change to a flightplan on the tablet. Rather the other way around, I always make the change in the panel IFD (or IFD100 app) and then download the change to the EFB app, to sync it up. * Orest Edited by oskrypuch - 10 Jun 2017 at 11:05pm |
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What is the implementation for sending current flight plan and flight plan modifications from the IFD540 to the iPad Foreflight while in flight? Is it automatic? Do you need to make the change on the IFD and then somewhere choose to send it to Foreflight? I don't have IFD installed yet but curious for when the panel is done...
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Hmmmm... I might be mistaken... but it looks like Foreflight removed flightplan upload in 9.1.3... it was there for sure in 9.1.2... but now I only see download... and foreflight is seeing the device as "download" only...
Anyone else seen this? Doug
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9.1.3 was released early today. |
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I was in the same boat Orest, bought an iPad a couple years ago just for ForeFlight. It has been very solid in the cockpit for years. You can keep all your manuals in ForeFlight documents which is handy.
I touched base with ForeFlight, and it looks like they have another new update as below: Kyle here - sorry that you're having issues. We did just release version 9.1.3 that has some bug fixes. Update your iPad to that version and see if the problem persists. If so, please let us know and we can continue troubleshooting. Best regards, Kyle Eakins Pilot Support Team team@foreflight.com www.foreflight.com |
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I'm new to FF, but have seen it a little unstable a few times. I don't see the consistent crash you are seeing.
There was a 9.1.1 mini-update to FF, be sure you have that. * Orest |
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Problem with Foreflight Map...
So I just got my 10.2 upgrade last week, and hooked up the IFD100 App before taking off (very cool Avidyne BTW!) Took off, and during the climb through the Rockies opened Foreflight (current version) on the same iPad. It opened fine but as soon as I touched the map tab the program crashed! 1st time ever that I recall... I hadn't tried sending a flight plan to the IFD540, but I did click "Allow" on startup. I closed Foreflight, and shut off the iPad, restarted it, and the exact same thing happened. The IFD100 App performed well. Has this happened to anyone else? Rob |
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Brad,
Can you explain (in enough detail) how to get weather and traffic from portable ADS-B device onto the IFD?
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Page 122 of IFD440 10.2 installation manual 7.5.14.1.2 Configuring the IFD as a Client to an External WAP In some cases, an aircraft may have an existing WAP in use. For example, some aircraft may be accustomed to connecting 3rd party iPad applications to a Stratus ADS-B receiver. These pilots will likely wish to also have access to the IFD from their iPads. In order to achieve this configuration, the IFD must be configured to connect to the Stratus receiver. This will allow tablet devices to access data from both the Stratus and the IFD simultaneously. To configure the Wifi Mode 1. Boot the IFD to Maintenance mode. 2. Select the "Config" tab. 3. Turn the right knob until the "Wifi Configuration" Page is displayed as shown in the image below. 4. If the "Wifi Mode" value is not set to "Remote", press the lower right know and use the outer knob to select the mode value. a. Once selected, use the inner knob to change the value to "Remote" b. Press the knob again to exit edit mode. Designate the Network to Connect To: 1. Boot the IFD to Maintenance mode. 2. Select the "Config" tab. 3. Turn the right knob until the "Wifi Configuration" Page is displayed as shown in the image below. 4. Press the lower right knob 5. Using the outer right knob, advance the selection rectangle until the Remote SSID field is selected as shown: Figure 31 WiFi Configuration Page 6. Press the right knob 7. The inner knob can now be used to advance through the available characters. The outer knob will advance to the next character in the name. Set this field to the name of the remote network to which you wish to attach. This will be provided by the device that supplies the network. To configure the network password (PSK) NOTE: This value will be supplied by the device with which you are attempting to connect. 1. Boot the IFD to Maintenance mode. 2. Select the "Config" tab. 3. Turn the right knob until the "Wifi Configuration" Page is displayed as shown in the image below. Figure 32 WiFi Configuration Page 4. Press the lower right knob 5. Using the outer right knob, advance the selection rectangle until the Remote PSK field is selected as shown: Figure 33 WiFi Configuration Page IFD5XX/4XX Installation Manual 600-00299-000 Page 125 of 239 Revision: 10 6. Press the right knob 7. The inner knob can now be used to advance through the available characters. The outer knob will advance to the next character in the PSK. NOTE: One of the possible character selections is a space character. Spaces at the end of the PSK will not be contained in the final PSK. In other words, "PASSWORD<SP><SP>" will present a network PSK of "PASSWORD". NOTE: Non empty PSKs must contain at least 8 characters. If there are fewer than 8 characters, the system will fill missing characters with a '?' character. NOTE: Empty PSKs are allowed though not recommended. |
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It is in the install manual, which is downloadable. Sorry don't have a page reference.
But, really, all you have to do is go the correct page in the system maintenance pages, and twiddle the settings. I show that page in this thread I think, up thread. * Orest |
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Is there a reference how where in maintenance you go and how to setup this remote network? When I went to the WiFi section on page 1-38 it referred me to: http://www.avidyne.com/products/ifd540/wifi devices.asp This is no longer a current link it seems and I wasn't able to find the info in the installation manual. |
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Thanks Orest. I was puzzled by the conflict between your instructions (Stratus as hub) and the Foreflight Pilot Guide (linking the iPad WiFi to Avidyne). Hopefully my plane will be out of annual soon so I can try it again.
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No, that is incorrect. The IFD can ONLY be in remote, or local mode, not both.
You can confirm that the IFD is connected on the Stratus network by using an app like FING, available for android & iOS. This is critical, if that doesn't happen, it won't work. I had a typo in the SSID, and was going around in circles for a while before I noticed it. FF will show what it is connected to on the devices pages, and it does that automatically. I have had instances where it just wouldn't work, but I rebooted the tablet, and then it worked. Read through my post again. I works for me, it should work for you too. * Orest Edited by oskrypuch - 05 Jun 2017 at 4:41pm |
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I flew in a friend's plane and tried this over the weekend but could not get flight plans to transfer in any direction. The IFD was in remote mode and apparently connected to the Stratus (I could not find any way to confirm this). The iOS device was connected to the Stratus as well, but I see now that ForeFlight has released their Pilot Guide saying that the iOS device should be on the IFD's WiFi network, not the Stratus (which I assumed would be a hub, apparently incorrectly). So, if I understand correctly, we should have the Stratus as WiFi host for the IFD as a client (first network), and the IFD in remote mode as WiFi host for Foreflight (second network), passing through the Stratus information. Though I wonder if the first network is available in remote mode. Can someone confirm this operation with a Stratus and Foreflight, with two-way flight plan transfer and Stratus ADS-B information on the iPad? If so, presumably IFD100 would work as well in the same configuration. |
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thank you, I should have looked first.
thank you , please have a great weekend. Pat.
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IFD440 pilot guide, wifi ops, pg 1-38.
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Hello, what do you mean by "if you have the IFD in remote mode", ?
I didn't see that setting anywhere... thanks! Pat.
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Thank you. All great points. I'll give that a try.
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That would create two separate networks, one a client one that would have the Stratus (server) and one IFD on it, the other a solitary IFD as the server. I don't know if that would create any confusion in the firmware. There may at the least be some signal interference with two closely placed servers, depending on how clever they are in choosing a channel. When the Stratus is not in the plane, you could only hook up to the IFD hot spot network. But, with the Stratus in the plane, you would have to be sure to hook up to the Stratus, so you can access both the Stratus & IFD. If the firmware didn't barf, that might work, but I'd call Tech Support about it. And personally, I think it would be better left, and far cleaner, as only ONE IFD active on WiFi, and just flip it between REMOTE/LOCAL when needed. * Orest |
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Thanks. Last question. :). I have 2 IFDs. Can I have one set to REMOTE and the other to LOCAL so the bottom box only uses the Stratus? I'm wondering if that works, how the setup would react when I don't have the Stratus with me. As far as crossfill info goes.
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You have to have something providing a hot spot, else the IFD & tablet can't communicate. If you had a fourth device providing a hot spot, that would work for the IFD & tablet, but NOT the Stratus, as it always insists on being the hot spot, it has no local (client) mode. So, you can't support both setups without flipping the IFD back and forth. But to do that, all you need to do is go into the maintenance pages (CONFIG page 13), and change the WiFi mode between REMOTE (server), and LOCAL (client). Easy Peasy. You do not need to re-enter the credentials, they stay remembered. * Orest Edited by oskrypuch - 02 Jun 2017 at 10:55am |
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That makes sense but on my flights when I don't have the Stratus with me, will my IPad continue to get info from the IFD or is this is situation where I must have the Stratus present if that is setup as my hotspot? Ideally, I'd like all 3 to communicate but when the Stratus isn't with me, I'd like the IFD/IPad to work as it does now.
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Before you get too choked up ... Actually this experience has reinforced my conviction that for me, android is the way to go for general use tablets & phones. I find the iThingy hardware dodgy, and the UI constraining and awkward. No way in the world am I moving to iOS, just forced to use the iPad for this one application. I suppose it is mainly a testament to the "coolness" of the IFD100 app. * Orest Edited by oskrypuch - 02 Jun 2017 at 10:46am |
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I am so proud of you!
Last weekend I found out that my oldest brother traded in his Android for a iPhone and now a few days later I find out that you got an iPad. I am starting to choke up a little . . .
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Nothing wrong with FF, nice program if pricey, just don't like the hardware. Explained my reasoning upthread. The mini iPad is an (expensive) single purpose device that lives in my flightbag, kind of kludgy interface, not multitasking, tends to really heat up, but it will run FF/Jepp and the IFD100. * Orest Edited by oskrypuch - 01 Jun 2017 at 9:24pm |
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Hang on .. Orest is using Foreflight?
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The same is true of FlyQ. FlyQ has bidirectional flight plans but no wx or traffic. They have plans to support all data streams from the IFD and are working in that direction. They are waiting Avidyne to provide them something so that they can finish the coding on their side. I would bet FF is waiting for the same thing. |
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makes me want to go experimental...
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It can be, if the manufacturer of the aircraft approves. And in my case, I do :-)  FIS-B info via custom stratux code as displayed on the IFD540. |
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Yes, absolutely. It seems to take a little longer to handshake, but it will appear. * Orest Edited by oskrypuch - 01 Jun 2017 at 9:44am |
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Phidoug
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Posted: 01 Jun 2017 at 9:29am |
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When using a Stratus wifi and the IFD wifi in remote, does the IFD show up as a connected device in ForeFlight?
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Posted: 01 Jun 2017 at 9:16am |
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Orest, Welcome to the dark side. I promise, everything is going to be OK...... Edited by tony - 01 Jun 2017 at 9:16am |
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Posted: 01 Jun 2017 at 9:14am |
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As of Foreflight 9.1, the app doesn't display wx or traffic from the IFD. I believe FF are planning this for a future release (since they already support wx, traffic, TFRs, and AIR/SIGMETs from the Lynx NGT9000).
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Posted: 31 May 2017 at 11:09pm |
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Yes, you have to use the new in 10.2 "remote" WiFi mode for the IFD. The new setup page is in the maintenance pages, and it is described in the install manual. Pretty straightfoward, really just like setting up a laptop to connect to a hot spot, you input the SSID, the password (usually blank) and set the IFD to remote mode.
So the Stratus will be the hot spot (instead of the IFD). The IFD will connect to the Stratus hot spot, and your tablet will connect to the Stratus hot spot as well. That establishes a network that links all three. The topology (who is the hot spot and who the clients) makes no difference to what information can be shared, it is just a conduit. Make sense? FF 9.1, using that conduit, will then connect to both. You don't need to do anything else. The connection to the IFD may take a little longer, and usually appears second. * Orest Edited by oskrypuch - 31 May 2017 at 11:10pm |
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