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Timothy Nathan 
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Should I take that for a “no, you can’t have an update”?
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Posted: 11 Oct 2017 at 3:38am |
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A quarter has passed since we last discussed this.
Could we have an update? |
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It is certainly difficult to understand how any software project can take four years after it was promised "in a few months."
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Posted: 12 Jul 2017 at 10:16pm |
We are looking forward to the same excitement. I share DD Gates' frustration - going on 4 years breath holding. Good news: 1. Skytrax100 S.B. done today and fixed. 2. Skytrax100 978 Traffic displaying on my Aspens - anticipating 1090 IN ADSB + TAS "A" Composite to my540's... When out in the boonies I will still receive 978 IN on Aspens. Bad News: Dual 540 Cross-Synch auto-deletion of User Wpts still happening and very annoying... Tom W. Edited by n7ifr - 12 Jul 2017 at 10:18pm |
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Posted: 11 Jul 2017 at 4:29pm |
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Tests are ongoing. There are a few internal initiatives that are also depending on this completion as well which will help push it even more.
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Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 7:03pm |
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A quarter has passed since we last discussed this.
Could we have an update? |
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Timothy Nathan
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It's a bit different when they've already taken your money, in my opinion.
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Aviation companies never benefit from making public timetable estimates. The best answer I ever heard on this question was from Frank Robertson. A reporter asked him when the announced R66 helicopter would be available. His answer, "After it is certified."
They asked him what the useful load would be. "More than the R44." They asked him what it would cost. "More than the R44." Robertson wins the blue ribbon for best answers. |
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Posted: 12 Apr 2017 at 11:16pm |
OK, you have our attention! Now that v10.2 and IFD100 almost perfected, this is great news Give us a teaser hint on time table on this and the TAS "A" display capabilities... Tom W. |
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Posted: 12 Apr 2017 at 1:44pm |
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Excellent. What is the target date for EASA certification?
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My apologies for the delay; not disbanded, just very busy. Avidyne is shifting
additional resources onto the TAS-A ADS-B update project, which should expedite
completion of the remaining test and certification activities.
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No reply? Should we assume that the team has been quietly disbanded and Avidyne hopes that we have forgotten?
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Posted: 11 Apr 2017 at 2:03am |
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A quarter has passed since we last discussed this.
Could we have an update? |
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Posted: 12 Jan 2017 at 9:31am |
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Avidyne continues to make progress toward
completion of the ADS-B update for the TAS-A product. We will make announcements as additional detail becomes available.
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Posted: 10 Jan 2017 at 3:04am |
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And answer came there none. |
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There are many of us loyal Avidyne owners who agree, and are losing faith in Avidyne product development and quality assurance.
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Posted: 07 Jan 2017 at 5:00pm |
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A quarter has passed since we last discussed this.
Could we have an update?
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The project is still a top priority and is currently moving along. Once it is complete we will be sure to post it here as well as informing our dealer network.
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Posted: 07 Oct 2016 at 9:44am |
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A quarter has passed since we last discussed this.
Could we have an update? |
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I don't accept that it is just a question of frustration and anxiety.
You have taken our money. Certainly in my case, it is money that I would have most definitely spent with Garmin had I known that you were going to break your promises to such an alarming extent. You talk to us as if we were children in line at a candy shop, clamoring to get to the front. We are not. We are adults who have entered a business relationship with you. We have fulfilled our duties and obligations, you have not. I have recently had an e-mail from one of the principal avionics shops in the UK asking why I am putting off so many of his customers from buying Avidyne IFD540s. Although there are other more minor reasons, the principal answer lies fairly and squarely in this thread. Some quotes, not from me, on the PPL/IR Europe forum discussing why people should not buy Avidyne products include: “I see the issue is
that the amount of risk and hassle is greater than the price difference in the
market.“ “Avidyne's engineering resources are too stretched. Their products are not fully developed when they come to market and their engineering support is limited. EASA approvals are a huge hurdle for them." You have already told us that this is a relatively low priority for you; I will keep trying to find ways of raising their priority. |
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Totally understand. We share the frustration but I do know with certainty it will get done. In the meantime, your frustration and anxiousness to get the box in the airplane is warranted.
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Steve: The reason <we> don't find this promising is that at least three, and maybe more, estimated completion dates, have passed, and Mr. Ryan's note does not sound like anytime soon. I have posted here respectfully my concerns about the practice of selling on the basis of "coming soon". I would note, though, that in different forms, many sellers have done this. I will be happy when the 605A integration is a reality, before my flying career ends.
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That does not sound promising.
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Although the TAS-A has been shipping for some time now, we have not begun to ship updates to existing installations yet. The current TAS-A product offers the same functionality as the previous TAS series products. We will begin updating installed TAS units to TAS-A after the software providing ADS-B functionality is shipping. Work on the ADS-B software update is continuing and is generating much excitement for those of us working on it, but we still have a number of months to go.
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Posted: 12 Jul 2016 at 1:30pm |
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It was not my intent to diss Avidyne, and has not been.
Two years, however, is more than a delay; I would call it something else. It is not unreasonable for a customer who has purchased a product to inquire when a promised component is to be delivered. For that reason, I am looking for an update from Avidyne.
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Delays surely are disappointing to pilots and manufacturer alike. It has been interesting to watch different reactions on various forums to slipping dates which I do not find all that disconcerting in this period of intense, rapid technological change and flawed government regulation. My confidence in the company remains extremely high, particularly since the all-Avidyne R9 Platinum panel on N969SS, one of the first installed, has functioned flawlessly for me now for over 1,300 flight hours. They get it right the first time, and when a complete Avidyne ADS-B solution is available, it will go right into my Cirrus.
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Posted: 12 Jul 2016 at 10:18am |
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May we have a status update please?
When I started this thread ("end of summer"), it was 2015. Now we are just about at OSH 2016. Edited by ddgates - 12 Jul 2016 at 10:21am |
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That's right - no dependency on the MLB100 (now called SkyTrax 100).
Progress on the software program continues. Not done yet and at least a few months of work still to go. |
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I don't think the promised TAS-A upgrade was contingent on having an MLB.
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I hadn't heard that the TAS "A" units would be combining inputs from the MLB, and their own, but rather that they would combine the rebroadcast and direct cast 1090 out squawks, received by the TAS units directly, with the active traffic squawks they are seeing. But if they did, that would be a more direct path to 978 traffic squawks, not needing to rely on rebroadcast. * Orest |
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Steve (AVJake):
With all the excitement on the IFD540/440 v10.2.0 upgrades, I am just trying to catch up on our TAS 6xx-A upgrades...
Any update on target date for the hardware/software "A" upgrades to our TAS units to combine active TAS-In with MLB-In display? Thanks. |
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Brian Cook avionics@bavionics.co.uk +44 7969 512017 They are doing the job as I write, though it is past closing time today, so Monday would be great, thank you. |
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Said differently, if you are not using COM1 of the TAS unit, then you can drop a TAS-A unit into an existing TAS tray and there is no rewiring or modifications of any kind needed.
What is the contact info of your avionics guy so we can talk directly to him and straighten him out? |
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The TAS-A sytems are a drop-in replacement for legacy TAS systems with the following exceptions:
- Although the 9-pin COM1 connector is not typically used in an installation, it is not available on the TAS-A. The associated RS-232 interface has been moved to a new high-density connector. If it does happen to be used in a particular installation the 9-pin connector at the end of the aircraft harness would be replaced with a 78-pin connector. - It should be obvious, but if you are adding connections to support features not previously available in the legacy TAS systems, then additional wires would have to be added to the installation. These additional connections would typically be added to the new 78-pin connector so that no changes to the existing wires or connectors would be necessary. |
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I was chatting to my avionics guy yesterday who said that:
Is that correct? |
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I suggest you e mail steve jacobsen directly.He is the most knowledgeable person at avidyne. He will find an answer to most issues and will respond to your questions promptly unless he is out of the country. Jim George
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I guess that was the same kind of Monday as your other time forecast estimates?
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No one I've spoken to in support have any record of your contact attempts and I certainly have never gotten any whiff of your issues until this thread.
I will check with the factory and production folks on Monday to see if the build plan supports your timing. That being said, yes, the new TAS-A box can use the existing TAS tray.
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OK, puting the entire history behind us, I guess that the only thing that would help somewhat is that during my current avionics refit, which is underway and expected to take three further weeks, that they install the new unit with the old software, such that I don't have to go back at some unspecified time in the future to have the new unit fitted.
However, if the new unit is completely plug and tray compatible (and I do know that the avionics shop is doing the wiring so that the new unit will work) I guess that the act of swapping the units will take no longer than flashing the software, so maybe even that is not worth doing.
I don't know where that is coming from. You have made no attempt to contact me privately despite my numerous attempts to contact you via Support.
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Mr. Nathan,
We could do this in private but you seem unwilling to do that. I may be your best chance to resolve your issues. Do you
want to have a civil discourse or are you going to continue to engage in some
sort of public flogging? I would really like to get this resolved in a positive
manner. However , we can not provide what you are asking for. We don't have the
software complete and ready for distribution and no amount of shaming or
venting will change that. I wish we did have the system available for you and everyone else and extend my apologies that we don't. Given that, do you have a specific ask that is actually reasonable and achievable? |
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Peace. Out.
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If that means what I think it means, ie take my cues from long term Avidyne customers, then Stockholm Syndrome comes to mind.
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Then perhaps you should take your queues from those of us who have been on this train longitudinally.
I hope all works out well for you.
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You may know them to be honourable, but what evidence do I have of their honourable nature?
I have only ever bought one thing from them. I bought it from them rather than Garmin based on a promise. They broke their promise. They made another promise. Broke that. Promise after promise. They have taken my money and not supplied the goods. I have other words for that than honourable.
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There have been a number of posts about missed deadlines.
I personally have commented about the in advisability of "coming soon..." to capture market share; Avidyne I would suspect might reconsider that in the future, and judging by posts here, I think they have... That said, they are paying penance for history. There are many of us waiting for the TAS-XXXA conversion. This thread, however, goes beyond that and is vitriolic. It serves no one except to offend what I know to be honorable people trying to deliver in a changing and challenging environment. Comment on strategy, if necessary (and I have), but personal attacks and impugning character? I think not. |
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Well, you could involve us in that decision rather than take it for us. I have scrapped my Aztec and bought a Navajo. I have removed all the avionics, including the TAS, and, as we speak, it is being fitted to the Navajo. If you were to supply the new hardware now, like this week, that could be installed instead, so that it doesn't need to go back into the shop at some future date. So it is not true to say that it wouldn't do anybody any good.
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The TAS-A hardware doesn't do anything different than your current TAS. The hardware is necessary to take advantage of the new TAS-A software that will come out later this year but the current software on your TAS is exactly the same software as we would load on your TAS-A if we shipped it to you today.
It wouldn't do anybody any good to upgrade their TAS units right now and instead, would cost both you and us time and hassle and money. For that reason, we are waiting until the TAS-A software is available before steaming full ahead with the upgrades. |
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I have the upgrade coupon for the 605A. I assume i have the 605, with the understanding the new 605A would be a new box with the new software. Yes, the question is still open, but the original question is when will I have a fully functional 605A. March, April??
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Hi Boavi,
What was your question on Tuesday and it is still an open question? What did you actually buy 16 months ago? 16 months ago we were selling TAS units with upgrade coupons for TAS-A hardware when it became available. Are you saying you never even got the TAS unit? And for clarity, what release are you asking about? The TAS-A hardware or the TAS-A software? The software is on track to finish later this year. |
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I can understand Timothy's frustration. I asked the same question Tuesday, and never got a response. I had Avidyne products in a previous airplane and was very satisfied. I bought my 605A 16 months ago, and still no unit. I guess it's an easy way to give an interest free loan.
As to my original post. What is the current release date?
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