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    Posted: 01 Mar 2016 at 4:23pm

I've been trying for much of the day to give Jeppesen some money. I've used Safari on Mac OS, IE, Chrome, and Edge on Windows 10, and no matter what, I can't get through checkout without getting an error of some kind. (this leaves aside the issue that their bundle page says the bundle for a 540 is $994 but the sales rep who emailed to answer my question said it was $1013, but whatevs.)

Is there a trick to simplifying the purchase? By comparison to this, my sentence using Bendix-King's Wingman site was like using Amazon.com.

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Yes I tried to give them some money as well but all I want is the central SE US NAV data $385+/-.  I already pay for charts and plates from another source I do not need to pay of them twice.
Tried their chat mode and go figure no one there to chat with.

Avidyne I know this was discussed years ago when the 540 was first introduced but can you seek out another source for Nav data so Jepp can have some competition?


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Calling Jepp works much better, and is generally pretty quick. Their website is not user friendly for small GA.

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Good to know-- thanks. I'll give them a call tomorrow.
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Jepp is indeed much better over the phone.  And they know their website is awful.  The person I talked to when I renewed our subscription said they are replacing it.

Avionics Source is a Jeppesen partner and they are offering a free extra month with a one year subscription.  I haven't used this but it was announced on Beechtalk.  https://avionicssource.com/jeppesen/
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At OshKosh I got picked to talk to some Jepp developers.

They are indeed planning to revamp the consumer site from scratch, and were seeking broad consultation from various users to try to deliver a product that works and meets the needs. Whether they are successful, we shall see.

OTOH, my telephone experience has almost always been good. If you have an issue, ask to speak to a supervisor.

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It's amazing how slick the Jepp site(s) feel at first glance, but then as you dig down to actually try to accomplish anything, how quickly the experience turns to utter frustration and irritation.

As others have said, their phone-based support is very good.  Just a shame that here in 2016, it's still the 1980s way of doing business that surpasses the 21st century way of doing business.  It's just one more example of how the world of aviation often feels trapped in the past.
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Good Lord. What an adventure. I took Paul's advice and went to AvionicsSource.com to get a quote. Since my previous post, I had had an email exchange running with Jepp to ask about the pricing difference between the "services suite" (charts and stuff) and the "services suite plus" (includes the PC and iPad apps), because that's not shown on their web site anywhere. 

AvionicsSource sent me a quote for $480 that was only for NavData. It appeared on Jepp letterhead and had a Jepp order number. I called Jepp to ask that they add ChartData and was quoted $1422! Turns out that some minion somewhere in the Jepp infrastructure had created a pro-forma order for me for the services suite plus-- apparently that's the only way they have to price it.

Bottom line, Frances in their support department was very helpful and got me a 13-month subscription for ~$1100 (at least I think so; I got a link to download JSUM but the order doesn't show in my JeppDirect order history yet). But just like airline ticket pricing, I am left feeling like I somehow got taken advantage of. Oh well. At least I have charts now.
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If you don't feel like you've been taken, you've not had the full Jepp experience!

Sorry, feel your pain.  My renewal is in the next 60 days/
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Well is suppose i'm going to get hammered here, but I have had good experiences with Jepp.  I have made many changes and updates to my panel and they have been great helping me sort out the 
least expensive way to go.
But, i always take to my rep and he's great.  I don't bother with the online stuff.
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Don't think anyone should diss you.

I actually have a product supervisor rep at Jepp who fixed the problems others created.

It just seems that ~1500/12 months for downloading digital data is more than a bit steep.

You may see it differently.
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Hi Centerforcekid-

I have had similar positive experiences dealing with the Jeppesen representatives on the phone. My only issue is that, without a comprehensive look at all the options (which is difficult to get over the phone), I am never sure whether I have asked for the plan or bundle that is best for me.

I can see Jeppesen's perspective somewhat; they have so many bundles and pricing options that their approach seems to be to try and understand your needs and then put together the most cost effective option to meet those needs. My problem is that I am not really sure what my needs are; I don't really "need" Americas Navdata coverage vs. Full US, but it would be nice to have and I might spring for it if it were available at an attractive cost, perhaps bundled with some other value-added services that do not come up when I discuss my needs with the Jeppesen representative.

I feel like a website that did a better job of laying out all of the options would make me a more intelligent consumer. At least for me, the annual database cost is a significant expense, and I want to be sure that I get the most value for that investment. 

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Couple of things:
if you have a mac, tough luck, you need to call Jeppesen to buy anything.
However this is not a bad idea because you can usually get a better deal.
Jeppesen is "old school" and runs it's business a lot like a used car lot.
You are always dealing with a salesman and you can usually negotiate.
Get the right guy on the right day, and order more than 1 thing, say, nav data and chart data and obstacle data and you can get a good deal. If not, call back and get someone else.
Better still, if you can order at a show where they have people in the tent, you can get even better deals.

If you just go to the website (on a pc) and order a la carte you are going to get a spanking.

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Just a quick question related to Jepp subscriptions.  I have both a 540 and a 440 in my aircraft.  Do I need two different subscriptions?  If so would that be around $1200 x 2 ???

What have other people done that have a 540 and 440 setup in their planes?

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Originally posted by sephi sephi wrote:

Just a quick question related to Jepp subscriptions.  I have both a 540 and a 440 in my aircraft.  Do I need two different subscriptions?  If so would that be around $1200 x 2 ???

What have other people done that have a 540 and 440 setup in their planes?


Jepp has a deal where it is one subscription for everything Avidyne in your aircarft. http://jeppdirect.jeppesen.com/main/store/legal/flitepak/avidyne-ifd540/index.jsp
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That deal is fine if you are prepared to pay for all the products. European chart coverage is extremely expensive, and I'm not aware of any similar package deal if you decline those.

I have a 540/440 pair, and have just ordered European Navdata for both. They are separate subscriptions. The first unit is full price and the second unit price is 36% of that. Mobile FD is a separate subscription if you want it. You'll notice that the package mentioned by Simpson for Europe, without FD, is €1'783 (a shade under $2'000) or 4x what I'm paying now for navdata only for the 2 units.

Also, check Avionics Source (link above to the Beechtalk web site) which offers the same subscription price for 13 months coverage, which reduces the monthly cost by about 9%. Best is to request a quote through their web site. The quote will come directly from Jeppesen.


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hi Vince
I have a dual subscription including Mobile FD snd I pay € 1550. Still much but less than what you have.
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Hi Luchetto,

Does that include terrain & obstacles?

Looks like you got a better deal than the package offer in Simpson's link. I only subscribed to navdata. At €468 ($522) for Central Europe, not including Mobile FD, that's about all my budget could handle. An additional €1'000+ just for charts is out of my C172 league. I have the IFR charts on an ipad with a VFR app (PocketFMS).
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