Would someone be able to check for me to see if their dataset contains the Alton Bay, NH airport/seaplane base - B18?  I've been there in four different airplanes and the airport has been in the database in the Garmin G430W, 750, G300, but not in my IFD540.

Had I been better prepared, I would have entered it as a user waypoint marked as an airport which would have eliminated "Bitching Betty" who was not at all happy landing on the ice runway, and my wife was not at all happy sharing the airplane with Bitching Betty.  Terrain Pull Up, Terrain Pull Up, on downwind, base, final, and all the way into the parking area.

You can turn the Alerts volume down to zero to "kill da wabbit".

David

Seaports aren't included in the navdata set currently. So you would need to add a user waypoint(airport).

Landing at a pvt field and that was SOOO annoying.  Tons of chatter on the CTAF and bitchin betty screaming at me to pull up.    How do we get private fields in the database?  My $149 foreflight had my destination, my multi-thousand dollar, panel mount did not.    (Oh, and my decades old Garmin 496 did, too).     Not a knock on the box.    

Hello... Jeppesen!!!!????

*echo*

I am usually pretty good at blocking stuff like that out, but it got to me...

Ken

Ken

Simpson, next year I will take you.

I know with the 540 you can install a TAWS annunciator panel that would have the appropriate mute button.

Since I was flying a heading and not using the IFD540 for navigation it didn't occur to me that I would have a TAWS issue.  I simply forgot about it until it started yelling.  Then I said ah dummy, you should have put a user waypoint configured as an airport.

I just find it interesting that the Garmin dataset contains the seaplane base, but the Avidyne dataset does not.

Commanche guy, the quickest way to silence the IFD540 would be to turn the power off either by pressing the volume button for 4sec, turning off the master, turning off the avionics master, or pulling the circuit breaker. 

Not sure if this Forum is the right place to ask, but has Avidyne ever considered building something like the 440, that would fit in the same space as the Garmin GNC 300 XL? It is length limited. Approximately three inches less depth than the 430 or 530. Would NOT need to be plug in capable. Just fit in the same space. I bought my GNC 300 XL because it was the only FAA approach approved GPS that would fit in a panel that was limited by depth, not height or width. Needs to fit in a panel that is no more than eight inches aft of the firewall.

If you need total silence, then I think pulling both circuit breakers is probably the fastest way.

If you just need to silence the terrain alerts, I have those on a switched input so I can turn them off at the audio panel.  For me, that is faster than finding and identifying the appropriate circuit breakers (especially at night).  Also, I think I could go to the AUX page and turn the alerts volume down to zero in less than the four seconds time of the power-down count.

David Bunin

It's come up here and there but we don't have any current plans to come out with something similar, however, things can change.

2017 is going to be more ADS-B focused for us.

Ken

IDEALLY, my fancy Jeppson powered, LEGAL databases would be at LEAST as good as the cheap stuff (ya, I know... )

Second best, I'm gonna have to figure a way to shut Betty the heck up... 

Ken

Do you really have the ALERTS audio wired up from each 540 to the audio panel?  I would only expect that wiring to be present on one of the units (and probably the #1).

David Bunin

Good question.   But, with them sharing information so heavily...  I don't know.     I'll have to try it, I guess.   I'll have to go out some day and fly into a pvt airport and mess with it on final.  

I asked this about driving the autopilot and GPS steering.  I wanted a switch from #1 to #2.   My avionics shop recommended against, which leaves me with less redundancy than I had hoped, for my tens of thousands of $$$ investment.  

  

It WAS REALLY annoying...  

There's an easier way to test this.  You don't need to be on final approach, you don't even need to be airborne.

Use to the AUX rocker, and go all the way to the left to find the Volumes page.  Do this on both IFDs.

Listen in your headset as you adjust the ALERT volume on the #1 unit.  Each time you click to a new volume level the unit will produce a doorbell sound so that you can judge the volume level.

Then adjust the ALERT volume on the #2 unit and listen again.

My guess is that you will hear the doorbell (and the volume of it will change) when you play with the #1 unit, and that you will hear nothing when you adjust the volume on the #2 unit.  I am guessing that your shop only wired up the alerts from the #1 unit.

David Bunin

Also on Final to triple tree, I had bitchin betty alarming her fool head off again.  I had turned #2 540 OFF to limit the bitching to mono vs stereo.  Still made the landing clearance hard to hear.   

I KNOW that I can turn the alert volume down.  I am not sure (yet) whether my shop wired the input to a switchable input.  I'll have to investigate.  

But, WHY (in the name of all that is sacred) are private airports not in the database?  Is this a space issue, an Avidyne issue, a Jepp issue or a FAA issue? 

I am so tired of the legal stuff being harder to use and less safe than the unapproved stuff at 10x the price. 

Ken

Interesting.

I don't have an IFD or ADSB yet and have been using an IPad linked to a GLO along with my old KLN 90B.

I'm personally moving back to paper flight plans for critical airport and nav info and away from relying on the IPAD too much because it has now shut down on me twice over the past few weeks due to being overheated - August in Texas I guess.  At least the KLN keeps working.  

Now I'm preparing to upgrade to a modern navigator and an ADSB solution.  Not having a complete database would be just as irritating as an IPAD shutdown, more so considering the cost, but at least the navigator will have a cooling fan LOL!     

comancheguy wrote: To be fair, all the public use airports are there.   But...

I'm based on a Pvt strip myself.  I would be PO'd if it isn't in the database - it does not show up in the IFD sim but does show up on GPilot, as do the two pvt strips you mentioned.

I'm at a private airport and before I discovered naming the airport and the elevation the Terrain Warning would come up. Now it doesn't.

Lance,

I guess that's fine if you have the data readily available, but I would have thought if the Airport is on the sectional chart it would be in the database as well - why does that not seem to be the case? 

Now, I'm just curious, as to why they aren't in the Avidyne database? 

I know that I CAN enter a user waypoint, and then mark it as an airport.  Yay.  What fun.  NOT. 

Ken

We use Jeppesen for our data. They can add a private airport, all you have to do is ask them.

I'll admit I'm unlikely to use them all, but the cohort of Avidyne users located all over the US is likely to have an operational need for having most if not all publicly accessible private airports in the database.

I suppose the problem is that some private airports are for the use of only one person, whereas others (like Monument Valley) are commercial airports served by airlines, despite being private.  I have no operational use for truly exclusive airports, but private airports that welcome the public should be in the Avidyne database, I believe.  And it would be simpler if Avidyne made that request of Jeppesen for us all. Many thanks if you can make it happen.

I don't think there is any way to differentiate between which private airports are open to the public or not.  By definition, private airports require prior permission to land, except in an emergency. 

We have a published Unicom, welcome visitors, are shown on the sectional chart, and have an FAA identifier, but there is no "open to the public" notice that can be made - except perhaps in the Chart Supplement (AFD), which no one seems to use anymore.  If they did, they would know we have a RH traffic pattern to Rwy 16 - FOR A REASON!  But I digress...

As far as being inconsequential, however, private airports are certainly of navigational landmark and emergency landing site value.

Perhaps one way to decide whether or not to include a private airport in the database would be if they have an identifier. 

Around here there are many Pvt strips shown on the SC that are abandoned, grown over, or otherwise no longer exists.  FAA tells me the only way they know to remove them from the charts is if somebody notifies them about it - then they have to try and contact the last known proponent of the airport to verify that it has been abandoned (often deceased or no current contact info).

Anyway, I'm surprised to learn that Jepp data does not at least include all airports with an FAA assigned identifier.  That's just BS