IFD 100 first impressions
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Topic: IFD 100 first impressions
Posted By: paulr
Subject: IFD 100 first impressions
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 11:44am
Yay! It's out. I don't have 10.2 in the plane so I haven't tested the app in flight yet. However:
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Posted By: ddgates
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 11:56am
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My bet, based on my experience is that they are counting devices. That likely will create a problem. I've also noticed that if you have, for example, the Jepp TC app or the Jepp FD app on the device, that is counted as one instance; then if you add an IFD100 app to the same device, that is counted as another, so it is easy to run out of licenses quickly. ------------- David Gates |
Posted By: paulr
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 11:59am
| Boy, I hope not, because with 4 pilots sharing one IFD-equipped airplane, having a single download slot isn't going to work unless we use a shared iPad for the plane, which I don't want to do. |
Posted By: gsxrpilot
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 6:14pm
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I've installed the IFD100 and the IFD Trainer on two iPads. I went through the Jepp download on all four of them. My device count in my Jepp account still just shows 1 used, which is my IFD540. ------------- Paul Mooney M20K 252 KHYI - San Marcos, TX |
Posted By: gsxrpilot
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 6:17pm
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The one thing I haven't figured out yet is setting the device ID in the IFD100 app. According to the instructions it's Settings on the iPad then scroll down the left side to the IFD100 app. The IFD100 doesn't appear in my list of apps on either iPad. Both are running 10.2.1 IOS. But then lots of apps that are installed don't actually appear. I'm sure there must be some updated instructions somewhere, but I haven't found them. ------------- Paul Mooney M20K 252 KHYI - San Marcos, TX |
Posted By: chflyer
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 6:22pm
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I'm also running 10.2.1 and both the IFD Trainer and IFD100 are in the list under Settings. Sometimes it takes a bit of time for all the apps to appear if you have a lot. The list is alphabetical, so both apps are together under IF... ------------- Vince |
Posted By: chflyer
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 7:14pm
Have you tried to run the IFD100 and IFD Trainer on the different ipads as suggested in the IFD100 user guide? I have, but can't get them to communicate even though they are both on the same wlan. I did an Accept of BT/WIFI at IFD Trainer startup, and both have sysid 1 (default). The IFD Trainer is showing a strong GPS signal and there are no alerts on it. Both devices are showing TAWS System Failure. IFD100 is also showing No Comm with VHF, and GPS Fault No Position alerts with freq boxes still showing large XXXX's. Any ideas? ------------- Vince |
gsxrpilot wrote:Posted By: Froethel
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 7:27pm
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This is probably a dumb question but where does one find the IFD100 users guide?? ------------- Frank |
Posted By: mgrimes
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 9:09pm
I flew with the IFD100 today and had a problem getting it to connect to the 540 until I closed the FLTPLAN GO app. It could have been complete coincidence but as soon as I closed the FTPLAN app it connected. Prior to that it had been trying for about 5 minutes. I didn't get a chance to recreate it but try when I fly tomorrow.
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Posted By: mgrimes
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 9:17pm
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I couldn't determine a way to change the UTC offset so all my ETA times were off by 4 hours. The UTC offset option is visible but disabled (dimmed out) on the user setup page. I tried it connected to the 540 and not connected in standalone mode. Anyone else have this issue?
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Posted By: dubs
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2017 at 10:24pm
Same here. I can't get the two ipads to connect. ------------- Baron C55 Tulsa, OK |
Posted By: dubs
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2017 at 7:05am
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Nevermind. I left both apps open long enough that they finally connected. ------------- Baron C55 Tulsa, OK |
Posted By: chflyer
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2017 at 7:33am
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Did the IFD100 local time offset come on to match the IFD Trainer? Mine never did connect. Don't know what the issue is. At first IFD100 software status shows Options: IFD options not received. Sometimes that changes after a while to a list of options on the IFD100. But the frequency red XXX's never disappear and at some point both the IFD100 and the IFD Trainer give an TAWS System Failure Alert at about the same time. If I display the alerts, they are slightly different on the two apps: IFD100 - TAWS System Failure TAWS Failed Self-Test, Terrain DB, GPS Position IFD Trainer - TAWS System Failure TAWS Failed Self-Test, Obstacle DB The IFD100 also shows No Comm With VHF and GPS Fault No Position alerts, but those are likely due to the lack of connection to the IFD Trainer. ------------- Vince |
Posted By: dubs
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2017 at 7:44am
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I closed all other apps, including Foreflight, on both devices. Nothing happened. After a while the iPad running IFD Trainer went to sleep. When I woke it up it "chimed", and the two connected. Maybe IFD100 needs to be open before opening Trainer. FWIW, I just tried to repeat the exercise before replying, but now the IFD100 wont get past the Jeppesen login page. Definitely buggy! ------------- Baron C55 Tulsa, OK |
Posted By: dubs
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2017 at 7:56am
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I had a chance to fly with the IFD100 yesterday, coupled to my IFD540. I had the April database on the IFD100, and the March database on the IFD540. So, I ran into the issue that they wouldn't share flight plans. But, otherwise worked ok. One annoyance I noted was that the iPad kept going to sleep. When Foreflight is open it overrides sleep mode. Is this an App coding issue? I don't see where AutoLock can be customized by App on the iPad. I might just have to turn AutoLock off and risk having my iPad inadvertently drain. ------------- Baron C55 Tulsa, OK |
Posted By: chflyer
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2017 at 8:42am
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I've had the same sleep issue with JeppFD charts on the ipad, and the only solution I found was to turn off the auto lock. ------------- Vince |
Posted By: MarcosMarchese
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2017 at 1:54pm
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I did my first flight with IFD100 and IFD540 this morning. I found it is a very nice App, but noticed a few problems described below: 1- IFD100 shows "Traffic Sensor Fault" but IFD540 shows traffic normally. My TAS is a L-3 TRC899. 2- The satellite page shows different or omitted satellites between IFD100 and IFD540. 3- The VSR Field at MAP page (Vertical Speed Required) shows different values in IFD100 and IFD540. 4- Flight Timer at MAP page of IFD100 resets every time you close the App. Even if you are still flying and Flight Timer is running in IFD540. 5- Ipad goes to sleep after some minutes. There is no option to keep it on. 6- The SETUP MAP page at AUX is not editable. Anyway I think these bugs are going to fixed follow on. |
Posted By: n7ifr
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2017 at 5:13pm
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Glad to see IFD100 out, but agree, still very "buggy": 1. Setup Page - Can't modify - Can't turn on Intersections 2. Datablock Page - Unable to to change Com/VLOC fhoice from 4 freq's to 3 (Com/VLOC Standby #2) 3. FMS ROUTE page - causes App to Crash, every time. 4. No Cross Synch with panel 540 Correctly have configured iPad to "540" & Unit #1. Correctly set only my #1 540 WiFi ON. Have re-installed IFD100 x3 times on iPad, no change. Tom W. |
Posted By: Gary T
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2017 at 6:28pm
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http://www.avidyne.com/files/downloads/IFD100_User_Guide.pdf
For Froethel above ------------- Gary-T |
Posted By: Froethel
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2017 at 7:37pm
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Thanks Gary ------------- Frank |
Posted By: Kentucky Captain
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2017 at 3:03am
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Read the IFD100 user guide, still can't connect the IFD trainer to the IFD100 I closed all other programs on both iPads. I've left them running side by side for an hour. iPad Pro 9.7 running IFD Trainer, Jeppdata downloaded, WiFi and Bluetooth active iPad mini running IFD100, Jeppdata downloaded, Setup configured as IFD540, Sys id 1, iPad 1 Error on the IFD Trainer. TAWS system failure - TAWS failed self-test, obstacle DB Error on IFD100, No Comm with VHF, GPS fault no position All red Xs on the comms and no sync on data Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong here? ------------- Woo Hoo!!! |
Posted By: gsxrpilot
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2017 at 8:19am
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I had the same problem. After struggling with it a bit, I switched iPads. In other words, I started out with the Trainer on the Mini and the IFD100 on the Pro 9.7. They wouldn't connect. Then I shut everything down and started again this time with the Trainer on the Pro and the IFD100 on the Mini. They connected but not everything worked. Whatever what happening on the Trainer was mirrored to the IFD100. But when I made commands on the IFD100, nothing happened on the Trainer. I'll keep playing with it as my plane is in the avionics shop for another couple of weeks. ------------- Paul Mooney M20K 252 KHYI - San Marcos, TX |
Posted By: AviSimpson
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2017 at 1:18pm
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There are some restrictions that some LAN have that might inhibit the connection between the two apps. I am waiting to have a recommended LAN setting before I send a configuration recommendation. ------------- Simpson Bennett Avidyne Corporation Product Manager |
Posted By: Kentucky Captain
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2017 at 11:58pm
Besides being retired air traffic controller of 27 years, I have a software company that writes tax collection and other software for government agencies. We also build all of our own hardware so I'm pretty savvy around networks. We do a lot of VPN connectivity so my modem is in bridge mode and the VPN Router is behind it. DHCP is handled by the VPN router. My wireless is run separately by a Netgear Nighthawk R7000 router running as an access point. Wireless access is secured by WPA2-PSK [AES]. Any thing else I should look for? I left them both on and connected to the WiFi last night for a couple of hours. Today I tried again, no dice and same errors. I completely closed the app and restarted therm in varying order also. ------------- Woo Hoo!!! |
Posted By: AviSimpson
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2017 at 8:30am
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Do you have a Stratus laying around? Easiest way to get around all this, power up the Stratus, connect the trainer and IFD100 apps to that network and it should be working as advertised. ------------- Simpson Bennett Avidyne Corporation Product Manager |
Posted By: n7ifr
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2017 at 5:44pm
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IFD100 App still very Buggy!: Did a bunch of hangar flying, and today VFR about an hour - dual 540's perfect with v10.2. On iPad/IFD100, Frequencies and Map GPS location synchs with my #1 540, BUT Still Very Buggy! 1. App consistently Crashes every time I go to/tap FMS "Route" page. 2. No response with using "Designated" Wpt Block 3. No synch of any blocks or touch controls... 4. No Traffic on IFD100 from #1 540 5. Can't flip-flop frequenceis Have deleted and re-loaded/re-booted ipad IFD100 App - No Joy! Anybody with suggestions? Tom W.
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Posted By: AviSimpson
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2017 at 5:58pm
Thanks for the feedback Tom. 1. Need to know more on this one. How much storage do you have available? What nav database are you running? What iOS? Did you have any background apps running? Feel free to PM me that info. 2. We'll look at adding that in the next release. 3. Don't know what this means 4. Is traffic going to the #1 IFD? If so, what product? 5. Correct, just like you can't flip flop the frequency using the touchscreen on a panel IFD ------------- Simpson Bennett Avidyne Corporation Product Manager |
Posted By: ddgates
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2017 at 6:12pm
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Simpson: Isn't there a Windows version somewhere? Jake was running one and describes it in his demos. EDIT: BTW Designated waypoint responds on my IFD100. FMS doesn't crash my IPD100 either. ??? ------------- David Gates |
Posted By: edanford
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2017 at 8:40pm
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I played with my IFD540 at hangar today and could see traffic from my MLB100 on IFD540 but neither of the IFD100 Ipads that were synced to the IFD540. Not sure of the version of SW running on MLB100 but it is a year or so old. Traffic works great on IFD540 Ed ------------- Ed |
Posted By: Kentucky Captain
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2017 at 10:50pm
Unfortunately the Stratus II is mounted on the rear equipment shelf under the baggage bin with antennas in the rear window. The airplane is still in the shop getting 10.2 and the SkyTrax100 installed. They said that the install was completed today, the test flight went great, and I can have it back on Monday. Woo-Hoo. ------------- Woo Hoo!!! |
Posted By: rfriend
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2017 at 7:18pm
| Does anyone know how to get intersections to show on airways on the IFD100. No success here. Tried with the simulator and the ifd440 which both show them but they do not reflect on the IFD100. Thanks. |
Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2017 at 9:50pm
| When flying with the IFD 100, it seems to perform as expected, except 1) traffic is not showing on the IFD 100 and 2) when I go to the charts, I get a message " chart initiation failed." I do have all the current NAV data loaded onto my iPad. Does anyone know if approach charts should display on the IFD 100? Tech support is helping with the traffic issue. |
Posted By: Agipilot
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2017 at 11:05pm
| I get the same chart initiation fail message. |
Posted By: PA20Pacer
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2017 at 8:40am
The discussion in the "Jepp Data Download Difficulty" thread may be relevant to the "chart initiation failed" issue. When I downloaded data for the IFD100, NavData and Obstacle databases were available, but Charts were not available for download. Regards, Bob ------------- Bob Siegfried, II Brookeridge Airpark (LL22) Downers Grove, IL |
Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2017 at 5:15pm
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Bob, Thank you. That makes sense as to why I didn't have charts. |
Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2017 at 10:14pm
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I spoke to Jepp and got an "interesting" answer as to why I cannot download charts onto my IFD 100. They are telling me I have a 540 "suite" subscription but would need a 540 "suite PLUS" subscription to be able to download charts to the IFD 100. I was under the assumption that the IFD 100 would be like having another IFD and be able to receive all the subscriptions I pay for in my panel mounts? |
Posted By: n7ifr
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2017 at 10:02am
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Teeth6, Not surprised Jepp response. I called them asking the most basic and simple questions logging in to IFD100 and asking them to "re-activate my Jepp Subscription #" for the APP, the Tech Support person quickly said he "could not help me as this was an Avidyne Product, not Jepp, and "they had no training on the IFD100 App..." Very frustrating. Wish Avidyne would partner with Seattle Avionics for the Chart interface! Tom W.
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Posted By: n7ifr
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2017 at 10:12am
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Thanks Simpson for response. 1. Using iPad mini, 60 gb, lots of extra space, Jepp NavDB is West/Central; Concurrent apps include FlyQ (and sometimes ForeFlight) sharing same WiFi for ADSB stream. 4. Yes, receiving ADSB Traffic on both 540's with the constant Yellow Alert Message on 540 "Degraded Traffic". Only #1 540 has WiFi turned on, #2 Off. IFD100 App does not synch flight plans from #1 540, and crashes whenever I go to FMS Routes Tab on IFD100 - so I avoid this. Tom W. |
Posted By: Kentucky Captain
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2017 at 11:59pm
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Picked up my plane from the shop today. Installed the Skytrax 100 and did the 10.2 update. It was a clear blue day and I didn't expect to see any weather but I did see plenty of traffic as we were transitioning across the Class C on the IFD. I tried to connect the IFD100 app to the IFD540 on the way home and could not get them connected. I did forget to check the SYS ID and made sure that it was set to 1 like in the IFD100 app. That could be one point of failure but I'm assuming that an IFD540 in a single unit install would be #1. ------------- Woo Hoo!!! |
Posted By: dmtidler
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2017 at 6:13pm
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Been using the IFD100 running on an iPad mini with the IFD Trainer app running on an iPad . I have a couple of questions I have not yet seen discussed: Is there a quick way to insert checklists or checklist items created or even quickly clear an entirely completed checklist on the IFD100? Without the IFD knobs, these quick features seem to have been lost. I have found that restarting the IFD100 app resets all of the cleared checklists; however, I have not found a way to insert a new checklist or checklist item without having to retype all the checklists or items from the insert point and lower. Connected to the IFD trainer app through Wi-Fi, the IFD100 MAP - SVS ownship symbol is fixed and does not change orientation with climbs/descents/turns as on the IFD540 app. Has this behavior also been observed in actual operation? |
Posted By: tomd
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2017 at 11:51am
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post deleted, I figured it out. ------------- Bonanza F33a |
Posted By: mkellock
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2017 at 5:12pm
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IFD100 App has been updated to 10.2.2 ------------- Piper Archer II PA28-181 Tampa, FL |
Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2017 at 5:46pm
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Assume it must be in the app store as the original was. Usually shows up as an updated app |
Posted By: ddgates
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2017 at 6:08pm
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Showed up as an update as posted. Using the IFD trainer as surrogate panel mount, traffic doesn't work, but maybe linked to real IFD it will. Hope so. ------------- David Gates |
Posted By: dmtidler
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2017 at 1:24pm
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I was thinking it would be useful have an option to see the iPad's battery charge status displayed on the IFD100. At least on the older iPads that don't multitask, the IFD100 appears to have to completely re-sync if minimized to do something as simple as checking iPad's battery status. Thoughts? |
Posted By: teeth6
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2017 at 1:36pm
| Good idea. FF supplies that battery information |
Posted By: 94S
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2017 at 9:39am
+1 I was going to make the very same comment. |