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Topic: iPad App Available for Download
Posted By: AviJake
Subject: iPad App Available for Download
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2014 at 10:59am
The IFD540 simulator for iPads is now officially ready for customer download on the Apple Store.

We have two apps posted - one for the Americas and one for International folks.   The size of the app (due to the databases) are enormous - roughly 1 GB each.  Both are free apps.

You can search for "Avidyne" or "IFD540" and you should find two apps.  These are just for the IFD540.

You will need an iPad2 or later and iOS 6.x or later to run this.  You'll also need a little over 1GB of spare space as well.

We've run a few timing tests for various download methods and here is a set of examples to help set your expectations:

Downloading straight from the Cloud over a reliable wifi link:

Americas took just under 20 minutes to download.
International took just over 23 minutes to download.

Downloading to iTunes and then installing onto the iPad (no other data was being sync'd):

Americas took just over 5 minutes to download to iTunes and then 3 minutes to install on an iPad.

International (this was done by a different person with a different setup) took slightly less than 4 minutes to download to iTunes but then another 20 minutes to install on his iPad2.

A few operational notes once you do install the app on your iPad:

1.  In the bottom left there is a "Weather" button to slide.  The ability to slide it to the "Live" position won't be available until about 1 minute after you start the app.   It is actually connecting to live internet weather feed of the datalink products.

2.  There are some improvements we'll make on a follow-on release.  At least one of the known issues with this app is that when panning away from ownship on the map, the double tap of the glass to jump back to ownship position does not work.  Until that is resolved, you have to wait for the 20 sec timeout to automatically slide back to ownship position.

And for the inevitable "Hey, what about Android?" and "What about IFD440?" questions, both are in the works but may be a few months still until ready.




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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com



Replies:
Posted By: ddgates
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2014 at 11:28am
Downloading now.

Kudos, Jake.

Germane for me as I was unable to get the PC demo to run on any of my Windows laptops (Vista, Win 7, etc).

Looking forward to playing with this one.


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David Gates


Posted By: ddgates
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2014 at 12:00pm
It works!

Outstanding.  Now I can see (finally) what I should have soon.

Jake, are there instructions somewhere for the iOS demo?


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David Gates


Posted By: SteveMcD
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2014 at 12:15pm
Ditto about looking for instructions. For example:
1) can I reposition my aircraft so that I'm "flying" in familiar airspace while learning?
2) can I turn off the traffic indicators? I won't have traffic and don't want the alerts while learning

I'll have to go back and reread the IFD manual too. I'm already lost in screens that don't do what I expect them to do. For example, on MAP page, tap CHART, it shows chart for K02 (nowhere near my position). I "Select Chart", then "Select Airport", then try to enter a familiar airport identifier (CYKF). No joy. Apparently I can enter only Kxxx. If I enter anything else, it does some strange substitution to produce a meaningless (to me) three-character identifier consisting of one letter and two digits. Hopefully this is an artifact of the sim and not how the real box works.


Posted By: ddgates
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2014 at 12:34pm
If you enter a flight plan, it repositions your airplane.

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David Gates


Posted By: PA20Pacer
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2014 at 7:51pm
Is anyone else having an issue loading a route from the route tab on the iPad simulator? After hitting "New Route" and getting the page with the name "New" in reverse video, I enter the origin and destination waypoints. When I hit the "Back to Route List" LSK there is an alert message on the lower right that says "Route Not Stored". The Route does show up in the route list, but when the "Activate Route" LSK is pressed, the alert message indicates "Route Not Loaded", and in fact it is not.

In the PC simulator I am not having any problem with the same sequence of steps. The route is saved when the "Back to Route List" LSK is pressed, and loaded when the "Activate Route" LSK is pressed.

Any thoughts are welcome.

Regards,

Bob Siegfried, II


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Bob Siegfried, II
Brookeridge Airpark (LL22)
Downers Grove, IL


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2014 at 8:19pm
Bob,

Looks like you found an iPad sim bug.   I'll dig into it on Friday.   Thanks! (I guess.....)


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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: edanford
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2014 at 9:40pm
I found the same bug saving routes.

Overall the Ipad Sim is really nice since it allows touch screen inputs

Ed



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Ed


Posted By: rolfe_tessem
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2014 at 9:48pm
I am also having the issue of not being able to save/store routes...



Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2014 at 10:49am
Yes, it's a bug. We have a few that we're resolving and will push an app update as soon as it's available.

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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: SB Jim
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2014 at 1:32pm

Originally posted by AviJake AviJake wrote:

Bob,

Looks like you found an iPad sim bug.   I'll dig into it on Friday.   Thanks! (I guess.....)

Hi Bob II,

Thanks for posting that. I too was having trouble creating and saving a flight plan on the iPad app. Until I read your post I thought it was me!

Regards,


Jim



Posted By: SteveMcD
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2014 at 11:17am
There is a Weather button with Live/None choices. I want the same for traffic. I am just trying to learn the unit and I get CONSTANT traffic alerts, AUX button is constantly flashing, all of which are distracting and annoying.

Sim bug? with simulator in "stop" mode I keep getting traffic alerts. I shouldn't.

Annoying: got "Datalink Data Not Rcvd". I have no idea why (I'm on Wifi), I have no idea how to fix it. Again, distracting me from my main task of trying to figure out this unit.

Bottom line: please make the sim simpler, maybe add a "dummies" mode or something. And I sure hope some additional training is available somewhere for those of us unable to attend Oshkosh, etc.



Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2014 at 8:17pm
SteveMcD,

Great points.   Will make those types of improvements in the next release of it.

I'll also send a note to the training guys to see if any more training scheduled.


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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: 94S
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2014 at 9:00pm
Steve,
iPad bug report.
I was just flying the iPad sim when the sim went haywire. I was flying the R31 ILS @ KMOT. I did not activate the published missed. I was anticipating that it would simply fly it's last heading until I entered some other waypoint or an OBS bearing.   Upon reaching the MAP, the airplane went into a left hand turn. It started slowly, but gradually got faster and faster. I tried entering a direct to to get it out, but that didn't work. Shutting down the app was the only way to stop it.

David


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2014 at 9:05pm
Yikes.   We'll look at this tomorrow.    Thanks for the heads up.

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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: 210 Driver
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2014 at 10:48pm
Originally posted by 94S 94S wrote:

Steve,
iPad bug report.
I was just flying the iPad sim when the sim went haywire. I was flying the R31 ILS @ KMOT. I did not activate the published missed. I was anticipating that it would simply fly it's last heading until I entered some other waypoint or an OBS bearing.   Upon reaching the MAP, the airplane went into a left hand turn. It started slowly, but gradually got faster and faster. I tried entering a direct to to get it out, but that didn't work. Shutting down the app was the only way to stop it.

David
I had the same thing happen.


Posted By: jimelliott
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2014 at 7:51pm
I might have missed this in some other posts but I found out the hard way that the IFD 540 Simulator for the iPad is NOT compatible with the latest iOS 8.0 update for the iPad.  It just locks up at the AviDyne start up screen.  It also appears that I cannot recover back to the iOS 7.1.2 version that was compatible.  I hope the good software people at AviDyne will soon issue a release for the simulator that is compatible. 

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Jim Elliott


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2014 at 8:09pm
Ouch!  My fault for failing to make a pre-emptive post. 

Yes, the iPad app for the IFD540 does not (yet) work for iOS8.   We're working on the update now and it will also resolve the 4ish known bugs with the app.


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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: jimelliott
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2014 at 3:00pm
Thanks for the quick response Steve.  I still have the PC version so it's not a huge deal.  I'll be looking for updates on the Forum as time goes by.

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Jim Elliott


Posted By: MikeK
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2014 at 1:45am
So I thought to myself, "What shall I do while my iPad is updating?  I know, I'll check in on Avidyne Live."

D'oh.


Posted By: ptlevine
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2014 at 3:41pm
Does VLOC auto tuning work on the IPAD app? I have been playing around with some approaches using an ILS into KORL and it won't load the LOC frequency into the Nav frequencies. So, it will show GPS>VLOC in the mode till the FAF, then it will blink in GPS mode and stay in GPS mode. Then I get a warning that the GPS overlay isn't approved for this approach. 
Trying to figure out if it is user error or not! 


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2014 at 12:01pm
Still waiting on the official release from Apple on the iOS8 version of the 540 app.  *Should* be any day but since virtually every downloadable app had to get updated for iOS8, it's taking longer than normal to get the Apple release.

However, it does seem as if ptlevine has found a bug in the ipad app wrt the auto-tuning and auto-switching behavior for VLOC approaches.   The actual IFD does not have the problem he notes above but the ipad app does.  We're looking into what it would take to enable that functionality in the sim.


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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: ptlevine
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2014 at 3:22pm
OK. Glad to know I wasn't messing it up. I think the PC sim has the same issue BTW. At least the one I downloaded some time ago does.



Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2014 at 3:26pm
Yes, it's true that both the iPad and PC variants have the same issue.  We're looking at trying to solve both.

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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2014 at 4:11pm
The iPad variant update (fixes a few bugs and works with iOS8) is now available for download from the Apple store.


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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: jimelliott
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2014 at 7:55pm
Good news Steve!  Thanks for posting.

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Jim Elliott


Posted By: ddgates
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2014 at 12:19pm
Installed the app this weekend, will be helpful for when i pick up airplane from shop this week.

Jake - when the app starts,  I get "Configuration Error" which does not clear.

Problem with app?  Problem with operator?




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David Gates


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2014 at 1:26pm
This is the first I've heard of that report.  This was for the Americas (AM) version, correct?

Has anybody else loaded the new iOS8 version of the IFD540 sim and seen the same thing (or had success)?

I'm going to clear out my app and load it myself on an iPad later tonight to check.

Typically, that message is caused by a bad file but we've never seen that in the sim before.  Is there any chance (if you can tell) that you ran out of disk space on the iPad?  If that happended while we were copying over write data, that could cause this too potentially.


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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: ddgates
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2014 at 1:35pm
No, setup says there's 2 Gb available.

The error message is "Configuration Error IFD Requires Service".  If you start the app, but don't select Map, it doesn't pop up (until you select Map, then it does).




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David Gates


Posted By: tony
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2014 at 2:42pm
I updated the app (IFD540 simulator) this weekend and it works just like it did before I upgraded to IOS 8.  I'm running IOS 8.02 on my ipad, if that makes a difference. 


Posted By: pburger
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2014 at 2:50pm
Same here.  Updated the app, and all is well.


Posted By: Royski
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2014 at 7:47am
I've also had the "Configuration Error" persistent message with the new sim.  This is under iOS 8.02 with many GB of spare memory on an iPad Air.


Posted By: PA20Pacer
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2014 at 8:32am
I have run the new sim on an iPad mini retina with iOS 8.0.2 and it seems to run fine.

Regards,

Bob


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Bob Siegfried, II
Brookeridge Airpark (LL22)
Downers Grove, IL


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2014 at 10:39am
Okay, we figured this one out.   There are two conditions to consider:

1.  You had the app, then upgraded your iPad to iOS8 and then upgraded your app to the iOS8 version (you could have also upgraded the app first then upgraded to iOS8 in that order).

2.  You did not have the app on your iPad or deleted it entirely, upgraded your iPad to iOS8 and then did a "fresh" or "new" install of the IFD540 app.

In scenario #1, you won't see any error reported and you have full functionality.

In scenario #2, you will get a yellow CAS message that says "Configuration Error"  and on the Alerts page the longer message is "Configuration Error IFD Requires Service".  It is a nuisance alert that can be acknowledged by touching the CAS message and it does NOT have any loss of functionality.  So aside from the nuisance of a CAS alert, all works fine.

We will fix a minor bug that will eliminate the error message in scenario #2 and submit to the Apple Store in the near future.


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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: ddgates
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2014 at 10:44am
Makes sense, and thanks.

Jake, my shop is delivering my airplane this Thursday with my new toys installed.

I have played with the sim.

I don't see how the crossing altitude feature works - the only altitude related parameter I see is GPS AGL, so how does a crossing altitude work.  And in that vein, being installed with Aspen PFD/MFD, does it cross feed MSL altitude?

Thanks


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David Gates


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2014 at 3:08pm
Great news on the Thursday pickup.

I presume you are asking about the vertical constraints associated with a flight plan.  If so, check out page 2-11 of the Pilot Guide and see if that addresses your question.

The FMS can take in baro altitude data from an Aspen and use that in certain leg types.  Check out the note on the top of page 5-4 of the Pilot Guide so you get a sense of how that is used and the impact if you don't have MSL alt.


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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: Bad1996
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2015 at 10:14am
On the sim, is there a way I can fly the airplane via the heading bug with a direct to or flight plan in the 540 ? I can with no direct to etc but I haven't figured it out otherwise. Selecting obs or VLOC doesn't help......sometimes VLOC or obs are there singularly. I swear that I "have" flown it with the bug before with a plan in.


Posted By: oskrypuch
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2015 at 5:16pm
Unable, in the current version.

* Orest



Posted By: Bad1996
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2015 at 11:00pm
Thanks, I'll stop trying :-)


Posted By: Bad1996
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2015 at 12:44am
Not sure where to ask this, I didn't want to start another thread.
Steve, do you know if Tom Harpers webinar is on YouTube or somewhere else ? In it he points out some differences between 540>530. It's a little tough signing up to see the webinar and then trying to figure out how to watch it on an iPad. I'm working on converting GERMin folks over :-)


Posted By: Bad1996
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 1:09pm
Anyone ?^^^^^^^


Posted By: bellanca1730a
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 1:22pm
http://www.avidyne.com/support/rec-webinar-signup/login.asp

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Sean Andrews
Bellanca Super Viking


Posted By: Bad1996
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 3:53pm
Thanks for the reply. I know it's on the "sign-up for a webinar and wait for an email" deal.. That's a pain and then to watch on an iPad it seems like you need to download an app to watch it (mine used win zip)
I'm looking to pass it along to a few folks to watch, I'm not sure they care if it's that much work :-)


Posted By: LANCE
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2015 at 11:26am
It doesn't seem to work at all now.


Posted By: AviJake
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2015 at 9:30am
We’ve seen this happen before to some folks. Deleting the App and then downloading it again seems to fix it.

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Steve Jacobson
sjacobson@avidyne.com


Posted By: LANCE
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2015 at 10:33am
That did it - thanks!!

Any plans to have a weekend class somewhere on using the Avidyne. I think I could get a lot more out of my unit if I knew it better. First FMS I've ever used.


Posted By: AviSimpson
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2015 at 10:54am
If you are going to OSH, we will have Trip Taylor doing IFD540/440 training again this year Monday through Thursday 10am & 2pm. Booth 3130.

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Simpson Bennett
Avidyne Corporation
Product Manager


Posted By: AviSimpson
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2015 at 11:01am
The PC sim has been updated with the new features of 10.1. It can be downloaded here:  http://www.avidyne.com/products/ifd540/demo-sim-signup.asp" rel="nofollow - http://www.avidyne.com/products/ifd540/demo-sim-signup.asp

Delete the old version of the simulator before downloading this new one. This new update also has the 440 simulator on it as well.


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Simpson Bennett
Avidyne Corporation
Product Manager


Posted By: oskrypuch
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2015 at 5:07pm
Originally posted by AviSimpson AviSimpson wrote:

<span style="line-height: 16.7999992370605px;">The PC sim has been updated with the new features of 10.1. It can be downloaded here...


Yay!

* Orest


Posted By: SteveMcD
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2015 at 8:56pm
Re: IFD540 training at Oshkosh, Mon-Thu 10 & 2.

Are they 8 identical sessions, or 8 parts of one course? (Should I attend one or all?)

How much material is covered relative to available online material (videos)?

My 540 is being installed on Wed. I'd like to get comfortable ASAP so that I can file IFR with confidence.


Posted By: AUXAIR
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2015 at 9:02pm
Preliminarily - a very nice implementation.  I really like the idea of being able to download data from the SIM to the unit.

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David E.
Cessna 182 RG II


Posted By: AviSimpson
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2015 at 9:36am
Originally posted by SteveMcD SteveMcD wrote:

Re: IFD540 training at Oshkosh, Mon-Thu 10 & 2.

Are they 8 identical sessions, or 8 parts of one course? (Should I attend one or all?)

How much material is covered relative to available online material (videos)?

My 540 is being installed on Wed. I'd like to get comfortable ASAP so that I can file IFR with confidence.

Typically Trip covers the same material in all his presentations. What differs would be the questions that he fields at the end. He will typically stick around for a few minutes after as well.

Here is a youtube video of some training Trip did for SocialFlight on the IFD540: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMu3xXflHjM" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMu3xXflHjM  

Of course he will likely cover 10.1 features in his OSH training as well.


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Simpson Bennett
Avidyne Corporation
Product Manager


Posted By: KIM
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2015 at 10:58am

Originally posted by AviJake AviJake wrote:

We’ve seen this happen before to some folks. Deleting the App and then downloading it again seems to fix it.

Trying to install the new PC-simulator (5X) on the same unit as the 10.0 run, without success:

"Cannot create OGL window. DC-1006564269 RC 0 Error 2000"

Any idea?



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Klaus


Posted By: richholt
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2015 at 1:57pm
I had same OpenGL problem using Windows 7 Professional. I upgraded my video driver to the latest version and problem went away.


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Richard


Posted By: clydeps
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2015 at 7:54pm
I'm trying to get up to speed with the simulator before my IFD440s arrive. I downloaded the PC simulator but it doesn't run properly in a virtual machine and I don't have a Windows machine. I don't have an iPad either, but I borrowed one and installed the IFD440 app. I've run into a few problems;

1) There doesn't seem to be any way to switch the simulator into IFD440 mode - update - I found it. Kill the app, open the Apple Settings app, find Avidyne IFD, change the device, restart the IFD app. Clunky!

2) The IFD440 manual says about tuning frequencies "A more automated way to tune a com frequency is to press the “FREQ” button along the right edge of the bezel." That button is on the 540 and works, but the button is absent on the 440. Twisting either of the bottom left knobs *sometimes* brings up the Airport/Enroute/Recent tabs, but not always, and I can't figure out any pattern when it works or not.

3) In the frequency list,  the bottommost visible line isn't selectable via touch. I can select it with the bottom right inner knob, but not by touch. The top two visible lines are touch selectable.

4) Setting the current position is difficult. The instructions given on ifd540.com work only immediately after the app is opened.

More to come...




Posted By: TomH
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2015 at 1:08am
Having been precisely where you are, I understand the frustration. I can confirm the simulator works just fine in Parallels as well as a virtualized Win7 VM streamed via Citrix XenDesktop. Perhaps it's the host hardware or the hypervisor you're using?

Also and perhaps more importantly the simulator does a pretty good job helping you learn the basics of the interface elements. But encouragingly, I can tell you that using the hardware is much better. For example the three main buttons have a rocker element to them that is much more apparent and useful vs. the simulator. And the freq knob works somehow more as expected in flight vs what I experienced in the simulator. I replaced two 430 units with two 440s, an MLB100 and AXP340. There are some glitches but what worked before still works, the glitches are in the new features (traffic, ADS-B, etc.).

You'll enjoy the 440. I feel your pain learning the simulator, not an ideal implementation but useful enough in the end.


Posted By: DavidBunin
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2015 at 5:47pm

Quote 3) In the frequency list,  the bottommost visible line isn't selectable via touch. I can select it with the bottom right inner knob, but not by touch. The top two visible lines are touch selectable.

I have observed this problem on more than just the frequency screen (for example on the approach selections in the CHARTS page).  You can't see the last thing on the list.

I believe this problem appeared when they introduced the logic that hides the tabs (when the 440 came out).

David



Posted By: Catani
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 10:37pm
I've noticed that on both the iPad IFD440 sim and the PC IFD440 sim (both of which are the latest versions available) that when flying a simulated ILS, at some point prior to the FAF there is an alert that says "Check Navaid Identifier," which appears even though the system has automatically selected the correct ILS frequency.  Then at the FAF, the GPS-VLOC nav source indication in the upper right reverts to simply GPS.  At no point, it appears, does either simulator fly the simulated localizer.  This occurs when flying a simulated ILS 9 approach into KTNT, simulated ILS 9R approach into KTMB, and some others I've tried.  Is this a bug, or am I doing something wrong?

I have noticed the same behavior in actual flight for the ILS9R approach into KTMB (SR22 with Entegra PFD & MFD and STec 55X), where I must manually select VLOC as the nav source to force the system (on autopilot) to track the localizer after it has announced the "Check Navaid Identifier" message.  On these occasions, I have checked the identifier and heard it loud and clear.  Whatever I'm doing wrong in the plane I'm apparently doing in both simulators, and vice versa.

Any troubleshooting ideas are appreciated, thanks.


Posted By: oskrypuch
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 11:02pm
In the air, this may be related to a good feature that is stymied. Avidyne it trying to work around this.

Its intention was to provide confirmation when you have the correct navaid tuned, automatically. It works for all VOR approaches, but the database does not include most of the LOC IDs, and that is a Jepp issue.

I have seen this, but only in that the VLOC would remain yellow. Did not see the confirmation popup. This is on version 10.1.1.

In the simulator, that would likely be a different issue, it does not tune any LOC or VORs, so you get some odd behavior at times, both enroute and on the approach.

* Orest



Posted By: Catani
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 11:42pm
Originally posted by oskrypuch oskrypuch wrote:

 It works for all VOR approaches, but the database does not include most of the LOC IDs, and that is a Jepp issue.

I have seen this, but only in that the VLOC would remain yellow. Did not see the confirmation popup. This is on version 10.1.1.


Thanks Orest.  I also have version 10.1.1, having just installed the IFD440.  I do get the popup advising me to check the navaid identifier when flying an ILS in the plane, after which I've learned to push the CDI button to force the system to go from GPS-VLOC to VLOC.  That VLOC indication remains yellow as you noted for the remainder of the approach, a feature that is described in the manual (all preconditions must be met for it to turn green, but navaid identification is one of those requirements).  I have also noticed that if you fail to push the CDI button before the FAF, the autopilot will not capture the glidepath, since the IFD does not switch to VLOC mode on its own in this condition.  This surprised me a few times until I figured out the workaround.

Hopefully Jepp will start putting LOC frequencies into the database soon.  Since the iPad and PC IFD simulators are using the same Jepp database and the same FMS software as the actual IFDs, that explains why the sims also show the popup and then fail to capture the glidepath on a simulated ILS (unless the CDI button is pressed to get the IFD to switch to VLOC mode despite the error message).


Posted By: Gring
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2016 at 9:13am
Maybe it is just regionally based, but working on my ATP rating last night, the GPS --> VLOC switch happened automatically on all of the ILS and VOR approaches I did.  In general I fly GPS approaches, but the several ILS approaches I've done over my time with the IFD have switched automatically.


Posted By: oskrypuch
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2016 at 3:21pm
Originally posted by Gring Gring wrote:

Maybe it is just regionally based, but working on my ATP rating last night, the GPS --> VLOC switch happened automatically on all of the ILS and VOR approaches I did.  In general I fly GPS approaches, but the several ILS approaches I've done over my time with the IFD have switched automatically.

Yes, some of the LOCs are in the database, but not many.

Congrats on pursuing your ATP!

* Orest



Posted By: ddgates
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2016 at 6:20pm
+1

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David Gates


Posted By: MysticCobra
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2016 at 12:09am
I think the reason the sim fails is not (just) because the navaid ID is not in the database....I think it's also because there's no simulated radio signal generating morse signals for the IFD software to actually decode.

In other words, it doesn't matter if the sim database is populated or not.  It's going to behave as if it never receives the radio signal...because there is no real or simulated radio signal for it to receive.


Posted By: 1964-m20e
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2016 at 9:02pm
Anyone have "GPS fault no position" error come up on the simulator?
I'm running it on a pc windows 10.  It was working fine a couple of weeks ago.


Posted By: mfb
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2016 at 11:13pm
That's happened to me every once in a while. I restart the sim and it goes away. It's never happened twice in a row.

Mike


Posted By: 1964-m20e
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2016 at 8:19am
I even tried preparing the simulator and it still does it.

I guess I will have to download it again.







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